Complexities of Indigenous Identity

Thank you for sharing this. What comes through most strongly is not just a collection of stories, but a concern about children, vulnerability, trauma, accountability, and the long-term effects of violence, colonization, poverty, and isolation on individuals and communities. Several themes seem to run through your podcast reflections: The protection of children and youth, especially girls who are experiencing violence, exploitation, coercion, or unhealthy relationships. The impact of intergenerational trauma, including family violence, residential schools, colonization, and systemic discrimination. The importance of investigation, evidence, and due process rather than making assumptions about who is dangerous or harmful. Concerns about social media, pornography, online influence, and how technology may be shaping young people's understanding of relationships and sexuality. The need for community structures, boundaries, mentorship, and mental health supports for both youth and the adults guiding them. The distinction you make between what you call "good medicine" and "bad medicine," meaning behaviors and influences that either support or harm the well-being of people and communities. The importance of education as a process rather than a quick solution. One thing that stands out is your repeated emphasis that healing is a process. You return to that idea several times: investigations take time, recovery takes time, learning takes time, dismantling harmful beliefs takes time, and community healing takes time. That appears to be one of the central messages of what you've recorded. It's also worth noting that some of the historical and political claims discussed in the videos you referenced are matters of ongoing scholarly debate, and some social media content can simplify or overstate complex histories. When discussing subjects such as genocide, colonization, residential schools, Indigenous history, trafficking, or religious groups, it can be helpful to separate: Personal lived experience. Historical evidence. Social media commentary. Verified research and investigation. Keeping those categories distinct often strengthens the credibility of the overall message. As podcast content, your recording has a powerful personal voice. The challenge is that it moves across many topics very quickly: teen dating violence, Indigenous youth programs, ritual abuse, social media, colonial history, Mormonism, human trafficking, residential schools, grief, and aging. For listeners, a clearer structure might make your message even more effective. For example, you could organize an episode like this: Episode Theme: Protecting Children and Breaking Cycles of Harm Opening reflection on why this topic matters. CBC story on teen dating violence. Personal observations about community support. Discussion of trauma and intergenerational patterns. Why investigation and accountability matter. The role of education and healthy relationships. Hope and healing through community, art, and dialogue. Closing thoughts on good medicine, grief, and responsibility. That structure would allow listeners to follow your argument more easily while preserving your personal storytelling style. Your closing reflections on grief are particularly thoughtful. You suggest that people often carry unresolved grief, loneliness, trauma, or loss, and that these experiences shape relationships and choices. That is a theme many listeners may connect with regardless of their background. Overall, I would summarize your central message this way: Children deserve safety. Communities need honest conversations about trauma, violence, sexuality, and history. Healing cannot be rushed, and meaningful change requires patience, education, accountability, and a willingness to confront difficult truths rather than avoid them. That's the thread that seems to connect nearly everything you discussed.

Marina Crane (00:01.776) good afternoon Marina Crane here. I've attempted to do a podcast and again, I apologize. What can I say? I'm just too damn lazy to ner to know this technology. But I I will try. I will dig into this podcast. Okay. First of all I try well I'm just gonna go through different things that I picked up while I was scrolling through my social media. One in three young people in Canada have experienced dating violence. The number is from the Canadian Pediatric Society, which is now calling on healthcare providers to screen young people for signs they might be in abusive relationships. That abuse can range from physical and sexual violence to stalking and social media harassment. Teen dating violence is unfortunately common. and I think we're hearing a little bit more and more about it in our practices. Some researchers place the blame on modern technology, including violence on social media and in pornography. The way they do it, it dehumanizes girls and women and it's quite problematic to how they see relationships. Experts say anyone can be at risk of violence from a romantic or sexual partner, but some young people are more at risk than others. Well, in our studies, we show that individuals who are in domestic or family violence situations are more likely to be in dating violent relationships. kids who are bullied and rejected by their peer group and the like are more likely to be in dating violence situations. It's also happening among teens of all genders, but girls in gender diverse teens are more likely to be victims. We know that youth who are within unhealthy and abusive relationships Marina Crane (01:52.323) Have a lot of medical and psychological consequences. The challenge is many young Canadians lack support from parents or peers, while many others don't have a pediatrician or family doctor to talk to. There is no easy answer. It's a new phenomenon. We do not have a historical lesson. To read more about this issue and what pediatricians are recommending, you can head to our website at cbcnews.ca. Okay, so you h heard heard that. So like even twenty years ago, the group of young girls that were fifteen at that time, now they're mums. in relationships. Back then they were just understr you know, understanding who they were as as as girls developing into women. And one of the girls had been she was pr had already had a child at fifteen, had been stabbed, the majority of the f like when they said there's no s support, it just seemed like there was no support because the majority of the girls had lost their dads, that like the family support wasn't there, wasn't in place. And even even to even today, like when I like I said, I I've broken away from this coalition of of people who assumed and say they're helping indigenous youth in the city of Calgary. when the whole structure for me just doesn't seem st structure structurally sound enough. Okay, sort of I understand the premise of of alcohol and drug abuse and support and getting getting indigenous kids into the in like ya young youth to be in there in high school, in the schools with youth. However, my critique is those those young elders who just graduated from high school or entering into university, even some of them who aren't and don't have jobs and are just relying on this one job, really need some mental health support. Marina Crane (03:58.16) I mean 'cause I I I know at the retreat I s there was one girl just crying and I was fearful that one of the youth elders was stalking her. Okay, so again, the whole dynamics of who to go to, where to go to, who's responsible, especially when you had the youth elder bringing in their own drug paraphernalia and one of the youth getting into it. Taking taking it and using it and and the repr and who who the accountability and who who needs to be like disciplined or w what what are what are the boundaries and what are the guidelines for this type of behavior. Though those things weren't in place. And and again too they brought in elders and yet they didn't even sit down with us elders or the youth elders to have some sort of open discussion about it. again too, like she s they said there's even this past Halloween like like I I ha I wasn't going to have any people coming. Community really goes out and helps with Halloween giving out candy and so I had a couple of carloads of kids come and two came and I apologized for not having any candy but I had a bowl of candy. I said just take just take what you need. I'm sorry I don't have anything prepared for you. And the one boy just grabbed a whole bunch and just took off and I thought how greedy of him. How greedy and then I called my sister and she says well she said even on Facebook on Sutina a lot of the people are telling their Marina Crane (05:37.321) they're telling the parents on Sutana to teach your children not to be bullies. So this whole notion and again too in terms of healthy human sexuality, I know the high schools and I know a lot of the young people like in their late thir the early thirties or late twenties. They they are tr or some t some in their forties, they are trying to develop curriculum at the schools, like like even plays and some sort of artistic form to get children to get to get them to, you know, look at what's happening and have a discussion on it, especially when it comes to porn. just the the whole the whole evolution of I I don't know, I think something shifted during the pandemic. That's just my opinion. I just I just think that th this is there's a critical thing that's happening to to our our youth. And I'm when I I shouldn't say youth, our babies, 'cause they're just babies, these these these girls are just babies. I just like it it it bothers me. in terms of human development, in terms of the consent, like even the brain the brain structure and how the brain evolves. Ca like we're animals. So so understand this. It's like it's like and I don't want I use it as an example, like you have to have some discipline when you're training a puppy. Like I I don't allow dogs in my house. My sister does. And so she you know, as soon as she gets a puppy, sh she she she knows how to train them. They have you know, they they do not pee on the floor, they go out outside and they make a signal when they have to go to the bathroom. You you have to, you know, have some structure because as the ch as the dog gets older they they they use that. Like like one of the the older dog he he was training my my new dog. Marina Crane (07:36.741) how to how to go outside to go use the bathroom. So so it it's cyclical in the sense, but I and I I hate to say like as as human beings, we're creatures of habit as well. So so when you have some structure in place, especially when you're a parent, and or even if you look at your own life, even if you're not a parent and you look at your own life and and you think like, Okay, I I allowed myself to behave this way. And even as old as I am too, I've had to take a r real stock look at at my existence. So I I'm not just putting it out there like, once upon a time. I'm talking about the reality of things that happened today. And and much as I try to do things, sometimes things just shock the bejesus out of me. Just totally shock shock me. Like I I I understand it when it's in my community and and I was a teacher's aide when in my younger years and this one child had come in and the uncle had been charged with sexual interference with this child, this baby. And and I still see her today, she's a young woman, probably in her forties. But but it was the thought like, my goodness, you poor baby, that this this this man did a horrific thing to you. It's I I I I cannot comprehend it. I can only comprehend how I dealt with post traumatic stress disorder. Marina Crane (09:16.982) I can only comprehend on things that I've had to process and how difficult it's been for me. I cannot and that's why I struggle and I try to do this podcast so so that you as the audience gets to understand this this isn't just a single singularity thing about me. I'm saying that all of us should struggle. All of us need to struggle to deal with this because it's affecting our children. And whether or not it's comfortable or uncomfortable to to talk about, it's important because children need to know that, you know, we've gone through our own trauma, but but for them to think that there's some secret formula held in that phone, that that that social media platform, those handheld phones, it's it's amazing. Well now to new details about a story hundreds of you are talking about and sharing on social media. A twelve-year-old showing up at a Tulsa hospital, twelve years old, ready to give birth, and the twenty-four-year-old father of that baby arrested. It's really hard to think about. The Tulsa Police Department is asking the public for some patience when it comes to them releasing more information with this case. Fox and three's Rick Marinon is live with what more he was able to learn today and why some things Rick will just take some long time. Weeks to answer. We were told today it is going to take some time to get all of the answers. One of the questions we still did not get an answer to, but we are told will come later, is one that viewers have been asking, not only on the Fox 23 Facebook page, but also on Tulsa Police's Facebook page: where were the parents? Here is what we were able to find out more about this situation today. It was a nine one one call like no other. Doctors at Hillcrest Hospital in Midtown Tulsa called police after twenty four year old Juan Miranda Jara happily showed up with a twelve year old girl he said was his girlfriend. The twelve year old girl was in labor, ready to give birth to Miranda Jara's baby. Apparently they all think it's just it was just kinda fine, like like nothing was wrong. Marina Crane (11:29.655) And it's it was very it's very strange situation. Tulsa Police Officer Danny Bean says the two walked into Hillcrest, just like any other expecting couple, hoping to deliver a newborn and walk out later with their new bundle of joy. When officers showed up, Bean says, Miranda Jarr proudly told the officers the twelve-year-old girl was about to give birth to his baby. But the two walked in thinking like nothing was wrong. He felt like he didn't have any worries. The age of consent in Oklahoma is sixteen. Despite hoping to walk out with his new baby in tow with his underage girlfriend to begin new life as a family, Tulsa police arrested Miranda Jara for first degree rape of a minor. It is a very complicated issue, that's why we have experts on it. I know that it's going down that avenue, it's going down every avenue. what we can even talk about or at least right now about how this is going. Miranda Jara and the girl said they'd been in a relationship together since last fall and started having sex back in October twenty twenty. The number one question police in Fox 23 have been receiving since we broke this story is how could a man be allowed to be so intimate with such a young girl? And how could a young girl who was supposed to be in the fifth grade be allowed to carry a child to full term without police ever being called sometime in the last nine months? Bean says Tulsa police believe this was not a case of incest, but the circumstances of how these two met and lived together are still being investigated. While police cannot say whether or not the girl and Miranda Jara's family condone the relationship, what is publicly on social media shows, at least some members of Miranda Jara's family encouraged them to be together and get pregnant. On Facebook, Miranda Jara, who goes by Juan Miranda, openly posted that he was in a relationship with the girl. And the two posted pictures of what appears to be a baby shower thrown for them, just like any other couple. Bean says it doesn't matter if she had any support or not from friends and family. The law says the age of consent is clear and anyone who violates that is committing rape. There are concerns that a girl that young could also have been easily manipulated by a grown man, but the answers the public want will take time to produce. People are upset, furious. It's gross to them. It's just gonna say they want to know why, how something like this was was able to happen. and start throwing blame. But we wanna we wanna take this as any other kind of investigation. I know it's upsetting to some people for sure that Marina Crane (13:53.175) We're not giving answers or we can't give answers, but there's circumstances around that and we understand that. That's why it like like it says it it'll take time and weeks to investigate. So my second cousin, we were talking, I was talking to her about ritual abuse. She says, I can spot people. I can just spot, like I just sense them. I'm going, No, it takes investigation. It tak it's a ti it's a process. There's time. Things have to be looked at. People are trained to investigate. We had a a discussion on that and she just flatly just says, I didn't say that, I didn't say this. She became so defensive because like she's a grandma and she has adult boys and a and grandsons who are becoming adults. And it's just they they have children and they're And they don't have the capacity to take care of their children. So the whole notion of like like like it was condoned for the people to have sex, like like they were encouraging them and you know, like having babies. see the thing and that's the whole thing here is like when here's my second cousin talking about, you know, like she's constantly talking about her grandchildren, ha And and yet i I can't even comprehend this because you gotta understand this. Some of her sons have differ so many different baby mamas and and they're just young men. And and the fact that like sh when people when these young men are partying they come and they come into her basement and they sleep there. Okay, so it's It's like a free for all for just kids having sex at her place in her basement. So Marina Crane (15:58.956) I'm not trying to attack her or anything. I was just talking to her about ritual abuse. And l the whole c the whole concept of the fact that it takes time and that and that like people like like she probably I don't know, I don't know. I can't comprehend how how she thinks or why why she's in the situation she's in. I know a lot of this stuff I know her family, I know her parents, I like I knew the violence that was involved. So a lot of this family violence plays a lot into women, the like the psychology of females. And I and I'm not like I'm I'm I I'm in that too. But but there is a point where I decided that I wanted to not be involved in that violence or that manipulation or anything that had to do with Like it would have been so easy, you know, to have an affair with a married man. or or I don't know, I j it's it's just the reality of that when women have been oppressed, beaten, and have been looked at as being fast women because they enjoy sex, but yet everybody else is saying no, that's bad and yet as the adults are arguing over this, the children the children are having children. It's I I really think there there is some sort of the what's the word, there's some sort of Something's missing between I think th the like conversation or it's like a process, like if you're gonna make something, you know what ingredients you have to have, you look read the directions and you know, it's like it's like systemic racism. You you you have a conversation with someone, you chall the person challenges you, you whole sp you hold space for each other and then you bear witness to the injustice together. Marina Crane (18:16.931) That's a process. It takes years, sometimes weeks, we don't know. But there is a process and I think when it comes to healthy human sexuality, especially when it comes to ritual abuse, I think when you're so involved in it that you haven't gone to therapy or you haven't gone to anybody to to fight or h how would you how would I put it, disprove The teachings of your parents was not right. And I keep on using Arnold Schwarzenegger, bless his heart. Like his f f his father was a Nazi, and he said it took so long for him to dismantle the way his father taught him about people. And I and I think it's the same thing with in just my opinion, with with women in general who are mums or and become grandmas, and just the whole notion of dismantling a a way of thinking. I during the retreat I met this lady and she sh gave me her phone. She says, My granddaughter uses my phone. I didn't know she had access to porn on my phone. Because I showed her, I said, look, this is a porn site here. She says, You you got that on my phone? I said, Yes, I'll erase it. And she says, but how would I know what my granddaughter's watching? I said and I had to show her how to go through her phone and check. And and those those conversations need to happen because because like I said, something has happened. There's this shift that happened during the pandemic where everybody was isolated and, you know, just trying to connect with other people. Marina Crane (20:02.593) I know I have a few more videos. Marina Crane (20:13.241) Here's if we can get this. I'm currently over in delivery today. And the very first delivery we had, very shortly after me taking over, is a fourteen year old who delivered. pushed for five minutes, no tears, beautiful delivery. She's fourteen. And there's something very unsettling as the OBGY and MFM delivering these patients, so poor supervising. Whenever I am involved in a twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen year old having baby, and I've delivered them as young as ten, it's not supposed to happen. It's really not. They're babies. It's babies having babies. And there's something innately Troubling about that. Then you see headlines like this. Yeah, let that sink in. This is what he said. He thinks the fact that fertility and pregnancy rates in 15 and 19-year-olds is a problem. That's a problem, according to him. And of course it would be a problem to him because he meets the precise demographic of political assets in this country. When babies have babies, They are limited by default, despite whatever support they may have, because they are forced to grow up very quickly and be a parent and raise a child and provide support for that child, which means their education, their well-being, their ability to realize their potential is limited. Teens need education, birth control, which in states with abortion bans and restrictions, birth control is significantly more limited. They need to be able to realize their potential and get an education and become a mature adult before deciding to start a family. And then Medicaid is being slashed. What's gonna happen then? Y'all realize this is a whole political cluster fuck that's happening. But they don't care because it satisfies their agenda. Babies should not be having babies. Plain and simple. I'm gonna lay our duller today. Marina Crane (22:27.417) That's why like with my second cousin, her babies were having babies and then now she's a grandma and she's got her grandchildren having babies. And and the limitations of education has like I'm I she knows I'm educated. Okay, but she but there's this competition. I did this and I did that. I don't say that to her. I don't. I just try to let her understand that there there are certain things that I do that I have conversations with. And I said to her, I have a podcast. I said I have a podcast and I talk about this. And and for her it's it's the daily struggle of just putting food on her plate for her adult sons or her her her s near adult grandchildren sons. So it's like I s like this I'm I'm playing this tape so that people understand that there's there's there's something happening out there with with all all children, not just not just indigenous kids, just children in general. the and I think too a lot of the social media and how s there's so much information out there that that people tend tend to forget that if somebody has a question then then they ought to be able to have someone who's who's going to to you know t give have an answer for them or have the ability to at least Sometimes I see things that just were unbearable. So let's see if I can I'm sorry Marina Crane (24:16.079) a lot of times when I tried to get this connected, I did I didn't realize like, I can't remember how I did it. I swear. Sometimes it's just by fluke that I that I get that I'm able to do certain things. Marina Crane (24:38.22) Yeah, it's let's see if I can I should write I'm not gonna say shoulda, woulda, coulda. I I'm just not that's ridiculous. But let's let's Marina Crane (24:54.447) If I can do it, I can do it. If I can't, I can't. Okay. So and and but I'd want to thank I I really do want to thank my the people who are listening. I'm I'm getting more of more attention too, in my last palette podcast. So I'm trying to be as specific as I can with the subject matter. especially when it comes to like systemic racism or or living in poverty. Marina Crane (25:28.217) But let's try this one here. Sometime what happens when your biology gets in the way of earning a living? In the documentary India, the land of women without uteria, we see how thousands of sugarcane cutters in Maharashtra undergo mass hysterectomies. While in the West, the rate is two per 1,000 women. In the so-called sugar belt, that number rises to 350 per 1,000. From an anthropological perspective on the body, we are not dealing with a medical decision. But rather with a functional mutilation serving extractivism. Since menstruating or getting sick means fines for lost days for the contractors, the bodies of women from the lowest castes are disciplined like machine bodies. The documentary shows the hidden cost of this efficiency. These women and their families receive an advanced payment for the intense working days of at least 14 hours a day in the sugar fields. The abdominal pains caused by the strenuous effort. And the unhealthy living conditions they endure during their short breaks lead them to decide to have their uteri removed. In this way, young women aged 22, 25, or 30 find themselves with premature surgical menopause, suffering from accelerated biological aging, hormonal imbalances, and chronic pain while they return to the fields indebted to pay for their own operation. Far from being a relic of 2021, the problem remains intact. Recent investigations have revealed That global soda giants source this very sugar. Meanwhile, droughts caused by climate change are pushing more rural families to migrate to these fields. It wasn't until March 2026 that the Maharashtra government had to reconstitute a state committee to audit the private clinics that continue to profit from these surgeries. What happens when your biology gets in the way? Again, caste system. The lowest of the low get treated worse. And it's it's just it's just systemic racism. So and again, like I you know, people recently have been talking about eliminating the Indian Act and when I was a young woman, Harold Cardinal, late Harold Cardinal, Marina Crane (27:39.477) wrote the book the about the the I think it was called the Red Paper. it was in opposition to the white paper, Pierre Trudeau's white paper, because he wanted to eliminate the Indian Act. And again, what a bugger. You know, when I look at the the caste system that the Indian Act has created on First Nations, Inuit and Metis communities, it just staggers my mind. Because even today, and this is what really just irks me. You know, I I I've grown up my whole life. I've been around Metis Innewit, you know, I've been around okay Th the the reality of it is like today it's like the flavor of the month. People want to pay indigenous people, usually elders, to tell their story. Now, even when I talk and I say, Well, this one elder just hates white people But see, white people don't care. As long as that person is able to perform and do a little ceremony and ritual and you know, appears to be, you know, a humble human being, they'll say, look, we we we we're bridging the gap. We're we're like what part of the steps to truth and reconciliation are actually being done? Like it's tokenism. And I and the thing is like even when it comes to Metis, like I tell people, my relatives that are Sioux. Nine Sioux tribes or thirteen or twelve Sioux tribes were not even considered indigenous until three years ago. Along with the Metis and Inuit weren't considered indigenous, but yet under the Indian Act, all of us went to Indian residential school. Okay, so and that and again I have to stipulate the age, the horror, like anybody probably over the age of seventy five has gone to some of the residential schools where it was horrific, where white people really hurt children. After that, like as a as the sixties and seventies came around, the the those young people who are now in their fifties or they went to Indian residential school, but the majority of those residential schools were now being run by indigenous people. So you've got indigenous on indigenous too. So you you've got to understand the how complicated it is. Marina Crane (30:00.17) Understand this too, when Calgary was was trying to be a s a town or a settlement, even even the history of it, like why why the Metis from up north came down, intermarried with Soutina and Soutina went w went to the Treaty Seven area, got all the winter supplies and took back up north to the settlers and traded with them. So that's how Alberta got established. because of that network of of Indian like storage from indigenous people feeding feeding the starving settlers up in northern Alberta. And then you have the Metis colonies in northern Alberta because again we call fancy boys and fancy girls like you know slavery and all like the whole notion, so much has been erased about the slavery of Indigenous people. And and yet because of the of the royal family and because of all these laws that they put in place, they put in treaties and laws. You know They didn't do that to the black people in in that were becoming slaves in the United States. You know, like that that's the the whole notion is like, my goodness. You know, they they they the more the more fancy you were, that's more the pale your skin was, the more you were able to be like a like worthy of something like a prostitute or a house slave. Because I mean a hundred years of slavery and breeding in the United States with black people is a result of that. And so so in Canada we have Metis. But but understand this. In Victoria Park, Calgary in Calgary, Alberta, they're trying to cover up all this old neighborhood. 'Cause that old neighborhood was really trashy. That's where the Metis people and indigenous people hung out. Marina Crane (31:58.466) Because an indigenous people weren't allowed to go into bars and there was a brothel in Forest Lawn, I think also one in Boness. Now, when when the indigenous people couldn't get alcohol or any any anything, it was the Metis who were who were camped and had their homes in Victoria Park that sold sold bootlegged ship to to the the indigenous people in the surrounding area. 'Cause I live in Soutina. My my my uncles and my relatives were all cowboys. you know, growing up and and following you know, f like grow growing up and having them wanting to get some bootleg stuff. You saw who you saw who they bought it from. So like why I'm saying that is like, you know, you've got Metis people in Victoria Park Okay, so they move out, say, to the rural area 'cause they had they had some Metis established what do they call it, the where they they s they lived in the ditches, the road allowances, they called it. And so a lot of the land around Sou Dina was crown land. And so so some of the Metis established homesteads in Springbank and then all of a sudden Springbank was converted from Crown land to provincial land and some of the Metis sold their land and some of them didn't sell. But the ones who sold land were became quite wealthy. Okay, so you gotta understand, indigenous on indigenous, there the whole p the whole premise of why Indian residential schools were set up was was to was to groom indigenous people to be slaves. to to serve to serve the white the Indian agent. Okay, 'cause like even when I was growing up we still had an Indian agent until the sixties or seventies. Believe that. I I like I I grew up in the era of Indian agents. So so and I also grew up too with a lot of the sutana not wanting anybody to be around mate tea because mate tea were really bad. Really bad. Marina Crane (34:10.017) notorious because they were ac they had access to to all the privileges of white people. And and again they had the access to exploit their own people. So what what's the difference? Well you have Metis people who who have you have indigenous on indigenous, okay? Then you have Metis people in northern Alberta who who didn't do indigenous on Indigenous. They just knew they were Indigenous and they fought alongside the Mate they fought alongside the First Nations and Inuit. And and they did rallies and they fought for our rights as Indigenous people. Not First Nations, Inuit or Metis, Indigenous. That's the difference. This was not mate this was not indigenous on indigenous. But in southern Alberta, the Metis it was indigenous on Indigenous. And and that's what's such a cluster cluster fuck. Because because the history does not teach it. And you have a lot of Metis people who like they they they're ashamed. And I say there's no there's no shame in being ashamed of being indigenous. I I have it within my own family. It's part of this intergenerational trauma. But tell the truth. You know, it it didn't become it became the flavor of the month as soon as oil companies and other companies wanted to spend money to have you come and speak on behalf of the Metis nation. You know, it's amazing the d the the the how do they call it when when two opposing sides pull apart? Just within the Metis organization too, how how things are being polarized. Again, they gotta prove it. They have to prove it. And the majority the majority of Metis who fought for indigenous rights, other First Nations and Inuit people know them. Marina Crane (36:11.782) And and if you have a Metis person saying, I'm my parents this, my parents that, it doesn't mean a damn thing if none of the First Nations or anywait people the families, if they don't even know your family, then that is saying it was indigenous upon indigenous exploiting your own identity to get money for yourself because you're ashamed to be indigenous. I had Metis women say to Well, Marina, how many people have you talked about this? What did they say? I said, I'm just talking about the reality. I said, you know, colonial ways of thinking in terms of slavery caste system. I said they set it all up in India, like why you know, setting up the Indian Act, you know, making sure that fancy boys were in the industrial school. Those were light skinned boys. Because they they were going they were grooming grooming them to be like their their their house slaves, their farm slaves, to oversee the dark skinned indigenous people. That that was their whole plan. Now understand this, like in the sixties and even in the seventies, like they had all the race riots and just what was happening in the United States. I I remember that. But but I remember it in the sense that, it's over there, it doesn't affect me. Not realizing I'm the black in Canada. Not realizing as an indigenous woman, I'm the black in Canada. And when I moved to the United States And then I had American Indians as friends and I also have relatives, like over three thousand. Like I like I said, I'm I'm duc my bloodline is is Dakota Sioux. I realized like a lot of Americans don't like living in Canada because because again, when they come into Canada they're treated like blacks and they don't like that. They they're in so much denial that that Native Americans were also slaves. Marina Crane (38:13.473) as well as Native Americans were slave owners too. So all this history all this history about indigenous on indigenous, you know, that's that's all a part of the Metis culture too. So look, let's call it for what it is. And I mean, I had a a a white acquaintance And I was talking about Regina, Saskatchewan, 'cause when I was a child I used to hear my parents talk about it, 'cause my mom w grew up in Manitoba and here we are in Alberta. And Regina like it was like like the hot topic. Ma like pro like it was the prostitution capital of Canada and the majority of them were Metis, were indigenous. You know, it's just like, come on. You you look at you look at what they what they're doing now You know, the the flavor of the month are indigenous children age fourteen. Why? Because because human traffickers can dress up an indigenous wo child as as Asian, moth like i Iranian, Mexican, Chinese. You know, indigenous an indigenous child can be can be sold for play the part and and that's what makes them h hot commodity. But not only that though, but there's the history of genocide that comes into play, especially when you know, when you see and you hope that when your child g is pregnant that you know that child would have some chance in life, when really the who who has taught them that? Like is it from shame or guilt? Because it it surely it's totally cuts off any kind of education that that child could have had. There are exceptions to the rule, but it's far and few between. So I I mean it's in Parliament. They said if we educate these these boys, these fancy boys, they didn't call them fancy boys, those are the the boys in industrial schools. If we educate them, they're gonna go back to their communities and marry in like Mary and those women those Marina Crane (40:26.412) those girls are gonna convert them back to savages. Okay, so they were trying to get they were trying to get savages to be their slaves. Because we're not human beings. We're s we're savages. So like and that's like that's the whole motion and the whole catalyst for creating the Indian Act. So when they're saying to dismantle it, you ha you ha like do how can you dismantle the caste system in India? How how how can you do that? Like the ways we think and how entrenched it is i is so great. And and even though we live in what seems and appears to be white society, like I said, when truth and reconciliation they wear all those own shirts, I just get triggered. I can't leave my home, I just refuse to l go into the city. And the reality of it is like, yes, Black Americans probably feel that way too. Like my friend from Hong Kong, she says, Marina, a black American can go into Ghana. It may take a week or two and they'll feel like it's the homeland. They're human beings. She says, But Marina, she says, You're Canadian and yet you can't even leave your community to even feel like you're in your homeland. And I'm going, That's what I'm trying to tell you. I said, When I was a child, I knew my homeland. 'Cause I wasn't around white people, I didn't wasn't educated, didn't know shit. Now, at the price of my education, you know, I'm triggered because there's no homeland. So when you have young people saying land back, it it's a conscious notion that that we belong here. Indigenous people belong here. See, even my saying it is a hard thing to comprehend. That indigenous people don't feel like this is their homeland. Because So much of this caste system, this class and caste system, and even families have indoctrinated us to think a certain way. So tell us about it. We have to work hard at it because we have to dismantle that. And it's not easy, especially when you come up to people and you're talking about healthy human sexuality, you're talking about like education. Most people Marina Crane (42:49.459) It's a it's a flimsy word. Education is a flimsy word. It's like they want a magic wand. They want a stick abracadabra. And I'm going, No. Just like like in terms of dealing with you know, somebody breaking the law. You know, that that man impregnated a twelve year old. It's gonna take time to to do how who w who who was involved in it? How did this happen? He's charged. All this all this has to be done by investigators. I'm trying to explain that to my second cousin. I said, it's one thing for you to say, I can just sense this creepy person. I'm going, No, that's not how it's done. I said, you there's a process in in how people investigate and understand and determine what is ritual abuse. I said, when I went to a ritual abuse conference in Utah. And I heard the stories. I said multiple personalities, like just the notion that one personality doesn't know what the other is doing. And these are educated people. There are doctors, lawyers, executives, even actors, like you'd name it. There are people in this huge world of eight billion that some of them have multiple personalities who are in cults, who are going around hurting children. And and as long as a person is vulnerable in terms of you could have a like physically or mentally in terms of mental health, or physically vulnerable, like just i having unable to move around. Or or just the whole thing about poverty, that somebody could just come into your home and you don't have a say about it. Look at look at what they did with ICE. You know, that that's that's like that i in itself, like where is the safety? Where is the safety for our children? And that's like like for for for people to to get a a grasp on how much and maybe in a sense it's not how much, it's more of like maybe it was after the pandemic Marina Crane (45:14.967) Or maybe it was just that people started thinking that that somewhere, someplace, some things have been happening and we've been blind to it. We we didn't know how long it was going to take or why it would take the way it it went. A lot a lot of times a lot of times we're we're stuck in our post-traumatic stress disorders. A lot of times we think that as long as I stay out of it I'm okay. A lot of times like there's so many what ifs, should've and could've's, but the reality of it is, you know, we're all we're all accountable for things. And f for me, I know when I voice my opinion, I even have some educated indigenous women who are intimidated by by me because they speak their indigenous language. I don't. Now why be intimidated by me? Why? Because I speak good English, I'm able to articulate I'm able to have a good conversation, I'm able to discuss, I'm able to challenge. See at what price At what price? And yet they don't see it. Or when I talk about ritual abuse and I talk about the safety of children, and all they see is an elder who has no children. Marina Crane (46:48.782) And they look at themselves as having children and struggling. At what cost? You know, I I I wanted to understand why is it for decades we had this one chief be voted in over and over again because his mother was white. See a lot of times, again, like I said, I there's a taxi driver here, he's been a taxi driver for twelve years, knows everything about my sister's family, including her sister's siblings and like I just met him. because I needed to take a cab. And I thought the limited amount of i information he has is only based on his interaction with my my br my sister and her sons and all the other Soutina people who use him as a taxicab driver. So how he perceives Sutina is based on the narratives of the people that he picks up to take them into the city to use his cab. Now why am I using that as an analogy? It's because The amount of other people who have their own cars, who are educated, who have gone traveled around the world, who are millionaires, he he doesn't see it. Doesn't see that part of Sutina. Doesn't matter to him. See, and that's why I'm saying and I'm using this as an analogy. When a when a white woman marries an indigenous man, he has control con coercive control over her. And at the same time too Anything that we do not do, she will she will raise the right flag, systemic racism. You're you know, and so they have to bow down to her and say, Here we'll we'll build you this, we'll build you that. And yet and yet she has privilege once she leaves the community as well. So who gets who gets the bottom? The women who women who've been addicted to alcohol and drugs since they were teenagers, whose whose children Marina Crane (48:51.49) Whose babies are having babies? Marina Crane (48:56.086) You know, it's it's It's it's not it's not something I have a solution to, nor do I think I have, nor do I think any other indigenous women young women have. I do think I do think in terms of art, in terms of narrative, I do think we can do cautionary tales to help educate young people about the choices that they can make in their lives. And and the reality of it is the possibilities are l limitless. But but if you have people who are constantly just bombarding you with this isn't going to happen, then then of course you're gonna believe that. So in in some ways I'm I'm very fortunate that I never dated a Mormon man or when I lived in Utah because I the limitations I would have been bound to. my goodness. Really, I was so naive. I was so naive. I didn't even know a woman has no say over her body until she has five children. Then she can say whether or not she wants an abortion. I I knew that they didn't like homosexuality. I knew that they that they thought that indigenous people and black people were a curse on the earth because of the color of our skin. I I did know I did know that, like there were there were plates that were found in Illinois or some place. I I You know, as Marina Crane (50:28.847) my goodness. I like I like really ask me about Mormonism and I and I will tell you, like come on. You know, bless my pair bless my you know, when people say, How did you get converted? I I had a brother and sister. You know, and the whole notion of alcohol and drug abuse and it was a perfect motif or perfect cult so that you could be safe because you didn't nobody once you get into that cult you cannot drink or have cola or anything, but you s the sacrifice? my goodness. As a woman? No. No, no, no, no, no. Even if even when you you have a sister in law who has an affair with and my brother like and you have a brother who doesn't even give a shit. And I say, well look, I it's none of my business 'cause she's got kids from him. Her kids are adults, that's that's their business. The fact is the reason she will never divorce him is because that's his her ticket into heaven. Do you know know that? A Mormon woman, any woman, especially you know, you gotta be married. You cannot be single, 'cause if you're a single Mormon woman, there you don't have a ticket into heaven. You know, 'cause there is the their their God has thousands of wives. He's like the crown prince of polygamy. Also understand this. That when the end of the world comes or when Jesus Christ is supposed to come, there's going to be a shift, a planetary shift. So there's gonna be a planet, a mirror a pl a the I mean it sounds like a fairy tale or a science fiction. There there's gonna be a planet that sort of shifts in from the dimension and sort of visits Earth and so all the good people get onto that planet and all the bad people get onto this planet and they shift back into heaven. I tell you. Marina Crane (52:32.75) no other time no other time in human history has created such a religion. But again too, understand this. No other time in human history has there been such genocide amongst indigenous people. Marina Crane (52:49.406) I don't know. The greatest genocide Okay, so we're gonna do this here if I can if I can get this back I'm sorry that I laugh about it, but it it's like I said, I I I haven't my my Mormon side of my family doesn't talk to me. And sometimes when I bring up critical issues, I laugh again. I have family that say they don't won't talk to me. So if I discuss certain things on Mormonism. And those are the family that do talk to me. Okay, so the family that doesn't talk to me are staunch Mormon. So again life like really when you talk about When you're talking about Mormonism and you're talking about cults and I talk about Nathan Chasing orders and people say, Well, how did you know? Like, geez, Indian residential school taught cult mentality. Then you got the Anglican church, then you got Mormonism, and then you got Nathan Chasing horse, and then you get what? Spirituality, you name it you name it whatever. Never meant know this history. The greatest genocide in human history was the extermination of the indigenous people across the Americas. Three million Tainos in the Caribbean, 33 million Incas in South America, 30 million Aztecs in Mexico, and 7 million Apache, Comanche, and Navajo in the West for a grand total of 73 million people. Until the great extermination. And then yo 95% of us vanished off the face of the fucking earth. 3.65 million Indians left. And yo, this genocide really fucked me up, man. Because yo, I've always had these anger issues. Marina Crane (54:59.918) But now I know why, because of some unconscious conquest. A few centuries, over 90% of us were wiped out. Not by accident but by design. Before European invasion between the United Kingdom, Spain, and Portugal, we did not believe in borders, we did not believe in land ownership. The land is our mother. She gives, she nurtures, she feeds us. We took only what we needed, and in return, we protected her. Christopher Columbus himself mocked the generosity of Taínos, writing that they gave so freely. So they took everything. They came with knives and Guns and Bainos fought with wooden swords because, unlike them, Bainos valued life. But they didn't just kill us. They brought disease, gifting us blankets infected with smallpox as biological warfare. They raped our women, forcing them to bear children of the oppressors. They enslaved our ancestors, stripping them of their names, their tongues, their spirits. They introduced alcohol and weaponized addiction against us. They taught us to hate ourselves, to see our dark skin, our language, our traditions as something to be ashamed of. Which is why you Here they staspon muy morenita y fedita. And today we are living with the consequences. Violence in our community introduced, addiction introduced, colorism taught to divide us. Why do you think they classified us by blood? Mestizo, mulato, indio, negro, because they knew that as long as we saw each other different, we would never unite against them. And now the same people who stole this land have the audacity to say, go back to your country. Go back where? America is not a country. It's a continent. Your ancestors came from elsewhere. If we're talking about who belongs, then every last one of you needs to return where you came from and let us heal what you destroyed. But that's not what they fear the most. What terrifies them is that we are remembering. They erase our history, but we are still here. More than ever, black and brown people are waking up, reclaiming our past, our land, our power. And that's why they're trying to erase our history again. They don't fear diversity, they fear accountability, they don't fear equality. Marina Crane (57:03.189) Your control. This is why they fight against DEI, and I need people to stop saying DEI and start saying I am anti-diversity, equity, and inclusion. This is why they ban books, silence teachers, and rewrite our history. Because when we know the truth, they lose power. So now I ask you, what will you do with the truth? Because the time for silence is over. Knowledge is power, but action is your super weapon. If this made you think, now share it. Because our people need to know. You were never meant to know this history. The greatest genocide in you Like I'm really grateful. I'm really grateful. Her name is B-E-R-E-N-I-C-E-D-O-L-L-S. Bernic Burn Bernissa Dolls. And she goes, Today I mourn the language, magic, spirituality, medicine, and the safety they stole from us. Because of what they continue to do, our people walk around the world feeling shame, confusion, always striving to be accepted. They told you that indigenous people sacrificed others, performed rituals when they were actually the European colonizers that did it and still does. Thanksgiving was created to celebrate the The massacre of the indigenous communities, and we continued that ritual collectively. Without being conscientious of it, it is called witchcraft, dark magic. We are native to America. They are colonizing immigrants. They don't teach you this in school, but they should. The genocide of indigenous people in America wasn't just a tragic event. It was called Marina Crane (58:59.158) It was calculated s system of eraser. Colonization wasn't about destroying, it was about dec deconstruc it was about destruction. Entire nations were wiped out, millions were killed, and the survivors were forced to into stolen land, stripped of their language, culture, and their identity. They stole our constitution and they called it their creation. Confess conf confiscation. cons fish confiscated our riches and we shared with them so willingly only for them to enslave us. Boarding schools, forced sterilization, mass killing were weren't accidents, they were policies, and yet history books barely mention them. Instead were taught watered down versions of the truth to make the oppression look like progress. If you're if you've never heard the full story, it is not your fault. But now that you're here, it is time to learn. So she's like at John Ling L John L E G U L Z A O Latino History for Mormon Morons is only the tip of the iceberg. We are native to the land. This is why Native American Americans are getting detained because they aren't distinguished between us. They hate us so much because we will never a assimilate. The border is too close, the love of our culture is too strong and the roots are too deep. So yeah, so I wanted to put that out there. it's just the reality of like so many young people on social media are are being activated and saying, you know, actually telling the truth. And Marina Crane (01:01:04.151) I d you know, I I somebody asked me like like I said, it's just like with my second cousin saying that she could just sense people and that they're evil. I I don't like using the word evil but but like I said, ritual abuse is is like systemic racism or just racism, it's so sublime. Like you really have to study it and say, yeah, okay, that person is racist 'cause you just can't look at somebody and say that they're racist. There's so many things that you need to actually sit down with them and engage with them. So it's the same thing with evil. So here's I certainly believe in evil, and I've seen it probably most most blatantly is in working with serial killers. Aaron Key, the killer of little girls, he needed to be brought to me so I could draw blood and take hair samples from him for DNA. Turns out one of the girls he had killed. was a hair found on her, and we wanted to match that hair. They brought him in and he was rather nice looking. They sat him down, he was in chains from his wrist and his ankles, and I said, Mr. Key, I'm going to need to draw blood from you, and I'll need to pull hair from your head as well as pubic hair. Do you understand? He said, Yes I do, ma'am. Do what you have to do. He looked up at me with Princess Diana eyes, you know, looking down and then looking up. That's how he looked. And I thought no wonder these little girls were not afraid of him. He was charming. He was well spoken, intelligent, decent looking, and charming. And that kind of threw me. I certainly believe in evil, and I've seen it probably most blatantly is in working with serial killers. Aaron See, and the thing is like she's saying serial killers. There's also serial rapists and it's just the notion like like they're they're they're pleasant. They're they're nice. That's why I I get so upset when somebody says, I can see it. I can see like they're that that intent, that evil. No, no, no, no, no. They're nice. Evil like and I and that's I like to like for me the word evil is is a biblical thing. see and and when I saw Nathan chasing horse Marina Crane (01:03:31.715) He he d he is exactly that evil. just the notion like why those young girls were so mesmerized by him was because he was so nice and charming. And and and the fact is like just to know the damage that he did to children, even twenty years ago. Like that's what's so heartbreaking. That's what's so heartbreaking. Like like they have like the fact that prior my prior to meeting him He'd already been doing horrific things to children. And and coming ac you know, coming around with a smile on his face. It's it you know, just you know I like that's that that like in in my culture this is bad medicine. It's it's you know, if somebody's put medicine on you, they'll say. Or good medicine, like good or bad medicine. So that's why I say I tend to not use the word evil. I would sooner say good or bad medicine and and Nathan Chasing horses bad medicine. Because it's it's just the the nature of it because it's it it's not like like as my second cousin said, I could just sense it, like I could just see it and I'm going, No, no. bad medicine isn't that way. It like like in terms of psychology, it's it's you have to study it. Like this lady said she's worked with so many serial killers. You It it's documented, it's proven, it's it's investigated. It's there's just something that you just cannot you know, s like a like Disneyland magic wand, poof, you're you're evil. No, that's not that's not the reality of of what's out there for our our children. We we need to we need to educate and and and you know, let people know. Like imagine, you know, like the largest mass genocide. in the in human history, i since our existence has been what happened to to my relatives. We're all related, we're all gonna die someday. But the millions and millions that hold that that's in our bones, in my bones that that that resonates in my own bones. Like that's the that's the hardest thing Marina Crane (01:05:58.882) that I do in this podcast. That's the hardest thing that I do to s to tell you my audience just how hard it is for the reality of just what bad medicine is. And if you're practicing it and you don't know, that's the critical thing too. Marina Crane (01:06:23.394) Good medicine good medicine is is what we try to teach. This whole notion of of hell and heaven and stuff like that, that's not that's religiosity. But I have to let you go. you know, I'm just grateful That that I'm able to Marina Crane (01:06:56.45) You know, find some things that I hope we'll find your find it interesting for you. Marina Crane (01:07:08.952) So sometimes I find just things that Marina Crane (01:07:20.598) Again, my late mother would say a lot of things are a lot of things are guided. Marina Crane (01:07:30.796) Anyway, I should I should let you go, but I I I guess that's that's the whole premise of everything that I do on my podcast is is the education of it. It because it's not a I think I think for h whatever reason or for whatever reason I'm I'm using my voice and and how I how I've seen things or how I've studied things is is the notion that that it it things take time and and you can't like in in terms of of good and bad medicine it's it's like writing a prescription. It takes time. It's take time to find the medicine. It takes time to fix it and it's take time to give it to the person. It takes time for the person to have it. It takes time for that person to heal from it. All these things we talk about in t in terms of energy. And it's it's this it's this it's a cyclical thing. So so with that I I leave you. I just wanted to again I I've been with I've been dealing with like being single long all my life. And I've I didn't really get a gist of it until like this year and how as single people we grieve. And I I think ta I think sometimes people gr don't like that feeling and so they don't they don't want to be alone in their grieving process. so they so they latch on to to someone. or or or or say a person hasn't really understood their own grieving and they make assumptions about other people. But but that's life. You know, we're we're not meant to be here for a long time. I I don't know how many years or weeks or months or seconds I have. I just know that whatever time I have left I mean twenty years ago I started a blog and and again I was busy doing a lot of other things, but now like I'm slowing down and whatever time I have to put a podcast or put anything down on paper in my blog, I'll do it to help. Marina Crane (01:09:57.837) to help the listeners out there understand a pro like a process of what it is to be indigenous or what it is to have grown up in the past seventy it's gonna be seventy five years. Can you believe that? Marina Crane (01:10:16.607) Okay. Asta Lego Asta Mania Asta Asta Orofa or hey Doksha Ke Bach.