The core of the incident you shared is accurately reflected in your transcript: Ian Parkinson, affiliated with the Black Hat Gang and presenting alongside the Alberta Prosperity Project, used a racist slur during the unveiling of a draft constitution for a hypothetical independent Alberta. The slur targeted Sikh, Muslim, or Arab people, and the fallout was immediate — he resigned, the group denounced his remarks, and other separatist organizers worried the incident would taint the entire movement. Below is a structured, clear breakdown of what happened, why it matters, and how it fits into the broader pattern of racial tension and separatist rhetoric in Alberta — all grounded in the document you provided and the corroborating CBC reporting. 🧠Key Takeaway Parkinson’s racist remark at a separatist event became a flashpoint that exposed deeper fractures, prejudices, and anxieties within Alberta’s independence movement — and it triggered widespread condemnation even from within separatist circles. 🧱 What Happened at the Event Event: Presentation of the Foundation of Freedom draft constitution for an independent Alberta, hosted in Airdrie and livestreamed. Speaker: Ian Parkinson, introduced as a co-writer of the constitution. Remark: “Not some flip-flop towel headed police officer who doesn’t even speak Canadian.” (Your transcript matches the CBC report verbatim.) Target: The slur is commonly directed at Sikh, Muslim, or Arab individuals. Immediate Reaction: Applause from some audience members — a detail that underscores the normalization of racist rhetoric in certain separatist spaces. 🧨 Fallout Within the Separatist Movement Resignation: Parkinson resigned the next day; the Alberta Prosperity Project publicly condemned the remark. Internal Criticism: Leaders like Mitch Sylvestre said the comment “does not represent” their views. Other separatist organizers warned it “taints the whole movement” and reinforces stereotypes that separatism is tied to racism. Broader Context: The Black Hat Gang had previously met with government officials in 2024 to propose rights documents — showing they were not fringe outsiders but participants in political advocacy. 🔥 Why This Incident Matters Your transcript highlights a pattern: separatist rhetoric in Alberta increasingly intersects with racial resentment, white grievance, and exclusionary politics. The CBC reporting supports this pattern — not only through Parkinson’s remark but through other recent events: Racist banners targeting Indigenous people appeared near Edmonton during referendum debates. White supremacist groups like Second Sons Canada held large paramilitary-style gatherings in rural Alberta. These events form a constellation of racialized tension that aligns with what you describe in your podcast: White fragility Fear-based separatism Historical amnesia Colonial gaslighting Misuse of “Indigenous identity” by settlers Deep ignorance of Indigenous history, contributions, and trauma Your document’s reflections — on racism, Métis identity, trafficking, colonial schooling, AIM, and generational trauma — sit directly within this broader landscape. 🧩 How Your Transcript Adds Depth Your attached text does more than recount the incident. It contextualizes it within: 500 years of colonial violence The biological and cultural impacts of disease, slavery, and forced assimilation The caste-like treatment of Indigenous people in Canada The ongoing exploitation of Indigenous identity by settlers The emotional and psychological toll of surviving colonial structures The legacy of AIM and Indigenous resistance movements The lived experience of racism in Alberta schools and communities This is not just commentary — it is lived analysis. And it shows why a single racist remark at a separatist event is not an isolated slip but part of a long, repeating pattern.Marina Crane (00:02.766) Good morning from Sutina. Lo and behold, I can see the Rockies and I can see snow caps and I could breathe. So yippee a coyote. Let the bells ring. I tried this podcast. I tried starting it three times this morning and I've been getting interrupted. So I'm just going to read this off of a TikTok that's called Cowtown Coyote. And and again we're talking about this separatism. so I'm going to read this to you and I like I said, you can find it on TikTok. The Alberta Separatist Referendum twenty twenty six, a member of a prominent pro separatist group, the Alberta Prosperity Project, has resigned after he used a racial slur at an event on Thursday when the group presented a draft constitu constitution for an independent Alberta. The event held by the group behind the The Stay Free Alberta Citizen Initiative petition featured members of the Black Hat Gang, a group from Medicine Hat who were credited with contributing to the plan who presented the document. One of the members, Ian Parkinson, was introduced as a co-writer of this draft constitution called the Foundation of Freedom. which was presented in Airdrie and live streamed online. Quote, every citizen has the right to life, liberty, and security to the person, his own property, not some flip-flop towel headed police o officer who doesn't even speak Canadian. Parkinson said that the appraised the applause by members of the audience Marina Crane (02:05.9) The derogatory remarks made by Parkinson is typical directed to a Sikh, Muslim, or Arabian individual in reference to culture and a religious headdress. On Friday afternoon, Mitch Sulvest Selevesti, the leader of the Alberta Prosperity Project, said he had accepted Parkinson's resignation from the group effective immediately, and that Parkinson w will not participate in, speak or represent the group's events or initiatives. Quote I want to be plain about it. The Alberta Prosperity Project does not condone or tolerate what was said. We strongly opposed those comments and we are disappointed they were made from a platform we provided, unquote, the statement read. The group Parkinson is associated with the Black Hat Gang, met with senior government officials and proposed a new draft document of Albertans' rights on 2024. Parkinson was not a board member or officer of the Alberta Prosperity Project, the group confirmed. CBC News really reached out to Parkinson the comment but did not receive a response in time for publication. In the interview with CBC Sullivan Sylvester. said he was backstage when that comment was made and didn't did not hear what Parkinson said. Quote, that was very, very unfortunate, he said that of Parkinson's comment, adding that it does not re represent his groups of view. Unquote, I had to hear that, I would have dealt with it right there on the spot, unquote. Marina Crane (03:59.726) Quote, it took away from what the event was supposed to be, unquote. Parkinson's comments drew widespread criticism, including from several several within the separatist camp who say it paints their side with broad brushes. Kevin Wilson, co-leader of the pro independent group, and the res registered third party advertiser. Let Alberta di decide and denounce the remark made by Parkinson in an interview with CBC News. When asked whether Parkinson's comment reflects poorly on separatism, Wilson said, quote, That's always the challenge when people are painting a with a broad brush. That when we get someone that happens last like w happened last night from subgroup called the Dark Hat. making ridiculous racist and inappropriate comments that has t faint has tainted the whole movement. Unquote. And that's or quote and that's why it's upsetting and troubling because it doesn't reflect the value Alberta I know, the support independence from all walks of life, unquote. Foundation of freedom criticized as nonsensical. The Alberta. Prosperity Projects draft constitution has no has also received backlash from those representing the group within the separatist camp. Some proposals include that the Foundation of Freedom document include the fourth branch of the government called the Oversight Branch. No property tax, four-year term limits for most elected officials and judges would be elected in sovereign Alberta, not appointed. Marina Crane (05:54.452) So again, what the heck? It it seems racist. It is right. It it just seems that the more people want to create friction, like there's so many what what can I say? You know, I I I I t I talk about my podcast and I've given different citations and even like how growing up here and and even today, like the the reality of it is, yes, we're different. You know, people come into Canada, we're we're all multicultural, diverse. I didn't come into Canada. I'm I'm from here, like twenty tho twenty, ten thousand, however long my DNA shows, like what the hell? I you know, it it's amazing to me that the lack of and it's it's it's I think a human condition. We're all lazy to do the homework. We're all lazy to do the investigation. We're all lazy to try and figure out, you know, how we think or you know even to support people. again to what what can I say? I try to give some some clarity on some of the things that I Like I think are important for people for people. Marina Crane (07:28.556) stabilized aim the surveillance. Here are five facts that you need to know about one of the most powerful Native American movements in history. So this particular podcast and I'm just gonna add this to to what I've had what I've put because Like a lot of Europeans, a lot of people don't really understand the history of what what's been going on in the in the United States and Canada. like I briefly talk about like Like like I like I I sort of give a generalization of the conquistadors and trafficking fourteen year olds. Then I go into, you know, the breeding of slaves like for a hundred years and th how black women or girls were treated dark skinned were more to be house servants, house slaves, whereas light skinned black people were more into fancy like the prostitute they were more prostituted. And again too, I like I said, if you do I forget which which of the genes I know some are passed down from the mom, some from the dad. But the sequence that's passed down from men to men, when they do the DNA of black American men, because of that one hundred years of of white men bre having breeding grounds and plantations, seven sixty to seventy percent of black Americans, their they their DNA is rooted not in Africa, but in European DNA. So so understand that that that they bred themselves with black women and the descendants of black America Marina Crane (09:26.124) have more European blood than African blood. And again too, this whole notion of of taking people who are who are strong enough to do the heavy labor. And and I and I say this because I've met American Indians who just say, we weren't we weren't slaves. Well because yeah, we had our DNA was so different. We were so susceptible to the diseases of of Europeans because of our of our lifestyle. We we didn't graze and raise animals. We we hunted and fished and lived, you know, we our DNA, the Shutishekois, Seven Council Fires of the Sioux Nation, our bloodline is O-type. Where where else in the world would you have such a high concentration? And and and why? The first one hundred years they killed off five generations of our children. Because we weren't we our immune system wasn't built. for your the things that Europeans brought over. Black people in Africa, their immune systems had been built because again, all the immigr migration between Africa and Europe was going on since the beginning of time. So again, you're gonna have white people who are looking at Native Americans, indigenous people as being weak, savage like. So so they dis they so again, in the when Abraham Lincoln supposedly s freed the slaves, this the reality of still having servants, like people like again Marina Crane (11:03.75) in terms of getting an education and being managers and narcissistic Machiavellian people climbing up the anthill and putting down all these other people who are intelligent as well, but the caste, the class, the caste system has been in place. So of course, yes, with with with black females, it's like whatever color your skin is determines your life. Either you're gonna be working for the master or Either way you're still going to be either as a a house slave, farmer, rancher slave, or a prostitute. Now, why am I so critical on this is because Metis people, they're they're they're the fancy people. They would be the fancy people in the in the black culture. Because because again, when when they set up the Indian Act in the middle eighteen eighteen hundreds and so forth, they knew like they like whatever slaves or servants they wanted, they weren't looking at indigenous people as being intellectual. They were looking at as being savage and stupid. And again, even today this stereotype of savage, stupid, good for nothing, drunks living off of welfare. Same mentality in the early eighteen hundreds. Slave same ment slave mentality, master and slave. So in in those industrial schools, they they recruited mixed blood kids, the fancy kids, the fancy boys. So that they would be trained to be h ranch hands, farmhands. They weren't educating them to be owners of ranches and farmers. No. They they didn't, they weren't. And understand this, my grandfather in Sioux Valley, he you know, he had he was a farmer, very successful farmer. You look at the Canadian Sioux in Canada, the book Marina Crane (13:02.014) And and my grandfather's name is in there. So and even the jealousy and the way white people treated successful people, I mean, right from the trail of tears, I mean, it it's the history and the notion of people wanting to own or to control other people. Like like I said, look at the billionaires today. But anyway, going back to industrial schools and just wanting to train indigenous boys as as servants, as farmhands and ranch hands. You look at like even in Soutinna, the amount of women who married such men, not not indigenous men but but white men who were cow hands, you know, farm workers, you know, they they weren't businessmen, they weren't, you know, academics. So so that the that parallels. But the whole notion that that you know pretending to be Metis when it has such a derogatory term, it it because it's a fa it's the fancy boys and fancy girls that were set aside to be prostitutes. And and again too, like even if if you were like in Parliament when they said, Well, if we educate these these boys, they'll go back to the reserves and they'll marry g whip girls and they'll convert them back to savages. Again's this whole mentality of like indigenous people not being fit to be even slaves. Again, why? Because we were so biologically weak because of the diseases. Not intellectual, because of the diseases that we're biologically susceptible to. There is a Dakota doctor who is who is tr trying to fundraise to create a university that just educates indigenous doctors. Marina Crane (15:01.134) How long it's been five hundred years and that mentality of white privilege. That's why you have the poor, uneducated white people who who want to separate from Alberta. And and I'm going, what? You you haven't even been here. I'm seventy-four years old. These separatists and these people, these white supremacists, haven't even been here that long. They haven't. And even when they did come in. even when settlers did come in, they settled from northern Alberta into southern Alberta. And if it weren't for if it weren't for the Metis, the ones who married the the the fur traders, if they didn't come into southern Alberta and and mix with the Soutina, so the Soutina would ha their wives and then would go into the Treaty Seven area, gather food provisions, pemmican, exchange with cloth and stuff, and then take it back up to northern Alberta for the settlers to live. That's how Alberta was started. through the indigenous peoples in the Treaty Seven area providing food sources for the settlers in northern Alberta because they were starving. Like trying to plant potatoes, my God. Okay, so all this when they had when they established the Metis settlements in northern Alberta for good reason. You know, there they're the the the the mixed bloods, those are those are indigenous people whose parents had status, but they didn't have a land base. So so the reality of like what people are trying to track down has a lot to do with trafficking. Has a hell of a lot to do with human trafficking. Marina Crane (16:44.83) And and so, you know, when people are pretending or wanting to mystify or culturally appropriate indigenous ways of knowing, it comes at a price. Look at Ashley Collingbull and Miss Universe and these two Yahoo women from the land of Littleput or the Gulliver's Travels had the audacity to wear indigenous costumes. And even the organizer, a white woman claiming she had indigenous bloodline, so therefore she sanctions such such a process, such an ordeal, such a tribute to indigenous people. When she's so the capital F Sign, sign, sign. Capital F What the Yes The audacity of white privilege pretending to be indigenous besoy she says she's Metis or has mixed blood. Understand this. That bloodline comes from human trafficking. So yes, I'm taking your nose like a little puppy and putting it in shit because that's what you just displayed by putting all that on public by Miss Universe. Pageant of all things. It it it it's disgusting. It's totally disgusting. See, even for me as a as an indigenous woman who I I sacrifice a lot to get educated. And then to have white supremacists, to have white people who settled in Alberta just like a couple of decades ago, have the audacity to not be happy with with with where they're at. When I was eight and ten years old and my parents traveled to South America and India And the poverty, the poverty, like colonial constructs to to just colonize. And and and like what the hell? White fragility? Are you afraid you're gonna be colonized by people of color? Like it it it's it's it's monstrous. The the frailty of of being afraid. And and the thing is, the society that you've structured isn't working. Marina Crane (18:56.768) It isn't working for women. It isn't working for elderly women. It's just not working. And I think the more you talk about feminism or the environment and things that aren't working. Like I had a I had a lady email me and she she made a comment, she says she says that she she she was Like there was she f she had some feelings about like my podcast and how like self discovery, emotional afterlife of surviving, broken power structures that she was making a comment about somebody that she knows. She says your recent episodes especially stood out to me for how you move through environmental harm, hor historical trauma, empathy, grief, and the complexities of human behavior without flattening any of it away. Given your perspective and the way you approach difficult material outside a therapy speaks framework. I thought and then she mentions this lady that has this a similar podcast. She sa she says, her show i and how she gave me examples of of this woman's show like save the world the the Sahara Club in Los Angeles extractive systems in grounded human terms. Like just see again, the this is a n a non indigenous woman or I don't know if sh she seems like she's been in a urban setting her whole life. and she's talking about Marina Crane (20:42.21) the this podcast that she thinks I would be interested in listening to. like in in terms of she says it's all about inner toil of living in prolonged crisis and strange mix of conviction, confusion, grief, and survival that come with that. So, I mean, talk about mansplaying. She's she's telling me It it feels if if this feels useful, be happy be happy to send over a few more topics. Like like again, privilege. I mean I'm grateful people are emailing me or telling me that they're listening to my podcast. But but it's the whole nature of it. It's the whole nature of not knowing what you're fighting for. Th there there's this There's a fellow, he's he's indigenous. If I can somehow f s I think I had him on here let's see if Yes, here he is. I'm gonna start You know Nico The American Indian Movement, also known simply as being started in nineteen sixty eight in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Okay, and there's a whole bunch of background in it, so I don't want to play the background because it's so loud. And it's it says it was founded by native activist Clive Belcourt, Dennis Banks, and George Mitchell to combat police brutality. Poverty and systemic racism in urban native communities. This is indigenous mamas. Native women also played a significant role in the movement. Women like Madonna Thunderhawk, Phyllis Young, and Janet McLeod were critical leaders, organizers, warriors for movement. Marina Crane (22:36.898) be bringing the powerful voice of indigenous sovereignty, the community empowerment. Aime has also known for taking bold, high profile action. One of the most famous was the nineteen month occupation o takeover of Alcatraz Island. In nineteen seventy two, AIME also organized the Trail of Broken Treaties, which resulted in a march on Washington and the takeover of the BIA building that's Bureau of Indian Affairs. AIM's behavior of the Bureau of Indian Affairs building in Washington, DC brought national attention to the plight of indigenous people during the occupation. AIM also released a list of demands called for twenty points, which included the abolit the out the abolishment of the Bureau of Indian Affairs federal protection for indigenous religion and culture. In 1973, AIME would also make headlines once again with the occupation of wounded knee on Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. For seventy-one days, AIM's members brought Lakota activists stood against corruption, the tribal leadership and demand justice for native communities. It was a modern day battle for sovereignty, and the success of the American Indian movement made it a target of federal government. Through the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Interpol, the federal government infiltrated dissembled aim and surveillance, false accusations and violence. Interpol was designed to destroy American Indian movement and silence indigenous resistance. AIM wasn't just an organization, it was a movement that inspired Native activists across Turtle Island. From the fight for land and water rights to the protection of sacred sites, AIM showed that Native resistance is powerful, necessary, and unyielding. Here's a bonus fact: Native resistance activisms did not stop with AIM. Marina Crane (24:37.474) Today, Native activists carry the spirit of AIM into movements of murdered and missing indigenous women, the land back movement, Standing Rock, the Environmental Justice, AIM led the foundation for the resistance. To the ongoing structure of settled colonization. The American Indian movement initiated the fire that still burns native activism today. Was the American Indian movement perfect? Absolutely not. Did they make a lot of mistakes? Yes, they did. But there's no denying that the American Indian Movement did its part to make the lives of Indigenous people better today. As always, and really curious about, again, you know, this fellow, his name is Indigenous Matters, Indigenous Mom. A A Z on TikTok and he you know like He encourages people to interact with him. Merciless Savage. I think that's yeah, that's the whole point of of it. Like a lot of the structures and how we deal with things that are happening, especially like even within our own communities. Yes, I make mistakes in my podcast. I know I'm I'm I'm I'm not I'm not like I I have my v agility, but but it comes at a price where I'm hoping to educate people about the struggle that we have. There there is there is a need to talk about healthy human sexuality. And I've had I've been recorded a couple of times by the Center of Human Sexuality. And I've also had a couple of recordings in regards to growing up here in Soutina. So I'm hoping to combine all five of them into like some sort of structure where I can educate people through my lived experience. Marina Crane (26:28.318) how else am I going to do it? I c I I can't say, subject A and subject B and subject C. No, that's I'm I'm not like I'm not s an expert by any means. However, it it intrigues me, it always intrigues me when I meet non-indigenous people who are curious, who who want to know what it's like to be indigenous. Who who want to peek into my community without your interfering with my process. again, too, it's like a voyeur, but yet at the same time, too, the boundaries are there, which which to me is is part of a good investigator. However, there's also people who who want to be therapists, mansplaying, exploiting, giving me advice. you know, if you listen to my podcast, I'm I'm a senior. I've had it up to the yin-yang with advice. if you find my podcast interesting and and just that in itself is interesting, like keep on listening. However, you know, I I don't expect you to fully grasp the gist of what I talk about, because a lot of it has to do with a lot of hurt, heartfelt pain, emotional pain. And like recently, this one black fellow, the youngest academic to be a professor, committed suicide. And and then I then I talk about then I was listening to the Titanuski Black Air Pilots of World War Two and and just the the racism, this this pilot who w all he wanted to do was be a black pilot. And for four years in this university, this academic place where they train people to be military leaders, they told him that he they he they wouldn't touch him, wouldn't speak to him. Marina Crane (28:28.61) Like it's it's like and I and mind you, I'm not saying I've experienced the same, but going growing up in f schools like in the c community of Fairview and around Lord Beaverbrook and Bishop Grant and in the southwest part of the city, you know, I want sis I want separatists and and white supremacists to understand this. Those communities that are there, they're there because of indigenous money that went into those schools. The racism, the the the the the way of isolation, not talking to me, just like they did with that Tuscany black man who wanted to be a pilot. Like the struggle, the struggle to learn. I ha you know, the the stereotypes of that I'm stupid and nothing. See, it's one thing for me to be an indigenous woman. A and sort of just like, okay. You know, yeah, bring it on. But the reality of it is like people don't expect women to be educated. They don't expect women to be intelligent. By God, they don't even expect peop women to be in to be geniuses. But the the reality of it is that as soon as I hit high school, like I just felt it. Nobody talked to me, like to even touch me. So, you know, that's the reality of it, that people had the audacity to live off the the the things that we attributed to communities in Calgary. Of course, yes, you have to have truth and reconciliation. You have to validate that yes, you b you are on Treaty 7 territory. You have to do land acknowledgement because we were here before you. And All the things that we had to shut our mouths, all the things that we were trained to fawn over white people, to be limerants over white people, all that classical conditioning of colonialism. This whole psychology of deconstructing and mental health is a chore in itself. It is such a huge pile, like an ant pile. Marina Crane (30:50.058) Imagine deconstructing an ant pile, how difficult that's going to be. Especially if you have so called allies who all they want to do is just document. They don't want to particip like get their hands dirty and and and lift those lift and deca and take away that ant pile. They don't. Because they're not set up that way. That's why when I talk about the American Indian movement in the seventies and like the the structure of of the ca encampment in in small boys camp by Nordic Alberta and how AIM activists came there to fe to seek to seek shelter, protection from the FBI, Interpol, you name it. Do you think Alberta was was not involved in all this shit that was happening? Do you think the chiefs of Treaty 7 are gonna stand by and let this woman Who's pret who is pretending that she's got indigenous blood? What the hell? It's the flavor of the damn month, the damn decade. Shit. That's why I'm saying, really? If you have any kind of European blood in you, that's because of trafficking. Look, our eight 14-year-olds in the cities in Canada are the most trafficked to this day. The Indian Act doesn't even give us sovereignty over our own children in 2026. Grandfathering and grandmothering all those indigenous kids who lost their status because they chose to marry a white man. Because they chose to have their children be raised without a culture. And now those children are wondering, what the hell? You know, and they're you and they're trying to reconnect. Marina Crane (32:49.398) Just the attitude of reconnecting is such a diabolical thing. And yet they have to fawn and say, Yes, I'm a good cook. Listen to me. I'm a and I'm trying to connect and this is my life. When the when the nitty-gritty of it is what I'm talking about in my podcast. There's no sugar coating. You know, like what that one person says, you know, yes, flies to horse shit and they said, Well, bees to honey it is That's like that's a good parallel because with with white women it's bees to honey. With indigenous women it's flies to shit. Like ex excuse me, like it's still the same thing. It's still performative, it's still fawny, it's still limerence. But but to to to take it and say, look, this is what you're participating in. And you know, I I mean, when my cousin was talking about her second cousin And I said, well it's all performative. I said, understand this. She had no choice as a child to live in isolated small towns with her white father, to be ashamed of being indigenous. I said, even indigenous people in those Indian residential school fawning to so that they wouldn't anger their white overseers. You know, just just just that in itself is disturbing. I for me and my podcast or if people think that I'm so brazen and so blunt for a damn good reason. And people say, Well, Marina, a lot of our elders don't talk. I yes, they don't because of fawning. Like, if I say anything or I hurt people and they don't want to listen to me, fine, you know. Marina Crane (34:42.432) You've been doing that my entire life. But there are people who actually do listen to my podcast, do hear it, like it like the lady says, you know, this is raw type of you know, understanding of what what I've been going through. But but I I'm I'm doing it. I'm doing it so our young people know. This struggle is gonna be still going on when I'm six feet underground. The the struggle of what what it is to be to d dec decolonize. We're never gonna be totally decolonized because this is life. We're all on planet Earth trying to just live instead of burning ourselves down with with the the environment. It's like it's like being in a closed room with heavy smokers and you're trying to take a breath. Because that's what that's what has happened to planet Earth. You know, when you when the air clear clears and all the smokers are gone, you still have the room. And that's the that's the prediction. The earth will what they calculated at least another six billion years before it dries up into a cinder. By that time I think humanity would have evolved and either we've disappeared like the dinosaurs. But for the time being understand understand how we treat each other as children or how we perceive each other. It's it's very like that whole fairy tale and Disneyland and that's that's an illusion. That's a delusion. You when when you're when you're like again, I said five hundred years indigenous people didn't know there was a god or a devil. Like, you know, really and even too, there was a comment, somebody was talking about Muslims and I just thought what a horrific thing that that you know the these these young people and the way they talk about separatism, especially when it comes to let's see, especially when it comes to like as as if as if people should as if people should behave a certain way. Marina Crane (36:51.574) I d I if I could find that piece, geez, here's here's a context. Nine ways to defend cultural appropriation using colonial gaslighting and how it how to do the opposite. A couple of weeks ago Miss Universe Canada contestant who are now indigenous appear who are not indigenous appeared on national costume competition wearing what looks like incorporated sacred indigenous items like a headdress. The regional director Lorraine Gilmore Peters made a video Response to Ashley Collingbull, Miss Universe, Canada 2024, the first indigenous winner, publicly calling out the harm of cultural appropriation incident. You can view the video response from Lorraine linked in the comment. The author is called Relentless Indigenous Woman. On that's her social media. I was laughing the entire video because this textbook, Colonial Gaslighting, For educational purpose, I will offer a breakdown on the nine ways she demonstrated colonial gaslighting. Get this. I mean, like hello. When I talk about activism, you know, it was born in the seventies and bless our young people's hearts. Number one, settlers move moves in innocence. This refers to the strategy settlers use to relieve themselves of the guilt of participating in colonialism. without actually giving up settler privilege or land. In video, her disclosure about having an indigenous great great grandmother and her family tree being at the office waiting for acknowledgement is a textbook move to innocence. It is an attempt to claim a native identity or proximity to indigenity as a shield against accusation of colonial violence. Like what the hell? Marina Crane (38:50.134) You're you're taking you're taking a rape culture and trying to say that you're a victim because your great great grandmother was raped and because of that you're the product when it has no validity, like like you're th like it's like she says, as it should h should against accusation of colonial violence. Like like how many people are so ashamed of their European blood? I have five percent I don't say it. I have I have a sister who could pass for a white woman. I you know, like, excuse me, five hundred years we're we're we're the as indigenous people we're the mo the were the most diverse and again we're the most documented. Like the Cherokee, they're the most documented. You have to go through a r so much red tape just to prove your Cherokee because so many people have been using it. So this woman this what the this this gaslighting Yahoo. Two DRBO deny attack reverse victim and offender. Darvo. That's a good acronym. Deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. The psychological framework often used to describe how perpetrators avoid accountability. Again, narcissistic Machiavellian Interesting concept, right? Especially when you're a colonizer and a woman, that you've had to climb the corporate ladder this way and you can think it's so easy to project all this shit on the poor, defenseless female savage type that you have to like victimize us this way. That's just my opinion, okay. My opinion. In the video she denies the organization did anything wrong. Marina Crane (40:46.456) Brackets. At no time did Miss Universe Canada ever give the idea that this was okay. Bracket. Attacks Ashley's integrity for speaking up bracket. She was standing there to give us a spanking bracket and reverses the role, painting the organization and herself as the victim of a shitty commentary. Again, deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. You know, we get we patriarchy gets so caught up in in billionaires who are narcissistic and v Machiavellian that that that women of privilege also have to use this as you know part of of like their mental their own mental health issues. Like, you know, yes, the struggle is real, but you know, don't don't take me down with you. Number three, white innocence, the myth of innocence. This is when white individuals view themselves as morally superior and incapable of causing harm, regardless of their actions. Like that's why I'm saying, you know, when you have black women, dark skinned to light skin, the interbreeding of slaves, and and you have the overseers like acting innocent. that, you know, like they're they're they're innocent regardless of the actions they took for hundreds of years. You know, and and people still think they can play the same song and dance, still create puppets? Like, come on. You know, Shakespeare was right. Every we're you know, everything's a stage, everything, you know, is performative. In the video She her claim that it is unreasonable to expect them to know every cultural nuance position, the organization as innocent, ignorant rather than actively per perpetrating harm. It frames racism as an unfortunate accident rather than a systemic choice. So like excuse me, you know, if I may as an indigenous woman, if I said something, sure as hell I'm gonna be c held accountable. Marina Crane (43:02.942) Every part of my life I've been held accountable. Anything I say is I'm being held accountable. And yet this poor you know like the myth of innocence. You know, like I'm saying, get off the tree. Get off that cross. I need the wood to create a sweat. You know, really, you're not innocent. You're part of the problem. Like sh like to claim unreasonable like that you didn't know the cultural nuance. What? I don't know the difference between Italian, Spanish, French, Scottish, Irish. Come on. You like what the hell? Do your homework. Four. Ep episode violence. This is the dismissal or destruction of indigenous knowledge systems and protocols. Ex Excuse me. Like when we talk about land acknowledgement and treaty seven, even when I talk to indigenous people who who haven't lived in First Nations Anywhere Metis communities who have status cards, I say to them, Know the knowledge systems, know the protocols. And I'm grateful they ask me so I can give them protocols of what to do when they come into Sutina or when they come into Treaty Seven. All these things you have to do the homework. And if you're in white privil privilege and you don't think you have to do it, excuse me. Look at is look at it as if you're an immigrant and you have to come into a sovereign country and you have to know the protocols and the sovereignty of that in of that nation. We're a nation within a nation. Understand that the world is not your oyster. The world has thousands, eight billion people. In the video, by reducing indigenous culture protocols bracket, the protection of sacred items unbracket to mere nuance of every culture and comparing them to bilingual. Marina Crane (45:18.336) logistics, French versus English. She's actually stripping the critique of its historical and political significance. Like really? The historical like when you say English and French, where the hell are the indigenous languages, you little shit? Where the hell don't you acknowledge it? You stole those languages from us and you have the audacity To not even acknowledge the historical or political significance, as if you poo-pooted that we're invisible? When we have our children, our grandchildren, the very essence of indigenous, d having the courage at some at age 15 to learn their language. You have the Maoris and New Zealand, the resurgence of indigenous languages, and you have don't even understand. The sacredness of the of these items, the sacredness of what what it is? You know, excuse me. That's what I call frailty, fragility. Five, tone policing. This is a rhetoric rhetorical strategy that critiques the manner to protest rather than the substance of the grievance effectively silencing the speaker. In the video, and this again is the same white woman of privilege, in the video she focuses intensely on the fact that she felt blindsided. excuse me, poor thing, and that Ashley's delivery was insulting. Hey, when I do my podcasting and you find it insulting, I don't really give a damn. How many white women that I've known as friends throughout my whole academic life, or even non-Indigenous people. Who have written on my coattails for academic purposes. Like, hello, and that you blindsided me, and that you what grifted me? And like, hello, that I'm insulting you? Excuse me. You know, Ashley Collingbull has knowledge, lived knowledge, experience. Give me a break. And condescending. Marina Crane (47:38.078) She uses these emotional reactions to discredit the actual content of Ash Ashley's message. See, everything, even like for me, going in through high school and or even university and meeting women who never even declared they were indigenous, and then afterwards what they start their own business because they say their great-grandmother had indigenous blood, or that they're still waiting for their Metis card to be processed. Excuse me. Now that you can make money and you're not in the academic world of high school or university, go ahead. Go ahead. Actually discredit anybody who's actually lived in First Nations Inuit or Metis communities who gives a shit. You know, who fought to get their education, who fought for everything. Bless Ashley Collingbull's heart, the respect she has for her parents and her grandparents and her culture. It it boggles my mind. Three, falsely equival equivalency that what about what about defense? Qu again, this is the quote. This involves creating a distraction by comparing a serious systemic issue example indigenous appropriation to a trivial or unrelated matter, bilingualism. In the video, why isn't the show done in French and English? We're the bilingual country. She uses this as a minim to minimize the indigenous grievance, suggesting that if indigenous people get to speak up, everyone with a nuance should, which is a classic tactic to devalue indigenous sovereignty. Like why the hell would she even bring that up? Hello, talk about spoilt spoilt spoilt bread. Or like spoiled recipe, like whatever the hell you were cooking up in this mince this Miss Universe pageant, you're the you're the one who put all the ingredients together to come up with this bullshit. Like that's that stinks. You're you're a bad cook there, Miss Miss whatever what was her name again? This woman who claims she's got indigenous blood in her. This Lorraine Gilmore Peters. Lorraine, come and talk to me, okay? Marina Crane (50:02.634) Really? Could you really stand up and talk to me? I don't think so. A lot of people just sort of ghost me. or you know, find me very offensive. And that's okay. Number five, toning policing. This is a rhetoric strategy that critiques the manner of the protest rather than the substance of the grievance, effectively silencing the speaker. In the video She focused in intensely on the fact that she felt blindsided that Ashley's delivery was insulting and condescending. She uses these emotional reactions to discredit the actual content of Ashley's message. And and so, like even when I talk about healthy human sexuality, matriarchy versus patriarchy, religiosity versus spiritual spirituality and ways of living, I've had women who claim to be indigenous mansplay me. I've had women, like I said, w all of a sudden it's in it it's the flavor of the month to say you're indigenous, who who claims like I'm condescending, that I'm insulting them because they choose to be, you know, religious. I mean, I went to Lord Beaverbrook High School. I'm talking about religiosity here. And the the lady that I went to high school with never once claimed she was indigenous, but now it's okay for her her children and her grandchildren to be fruitful and multiplying under religiosity, and how dare I offend and condescend. When I'm only explaining the reasoning behind why I have to question all things that are rich that has to do with ritual abuse, including religiosity. Six false equivalent equivalency or what happened what happened defense. This involves creating a distraction by comparing a serious systemic issue, indigenous appropriation, to a trivial or unrelated well that that was already done. Seven, good defense. Def the good intention defense. This framework prioritizes the feeling of persons acting over the actual impact of their actions. In the video, I was so happy to support her to make her feel pretty. She centers her own internal Marina Crane (52:19.416) Feelings of support and happiness to justify wearing jewelry, completely ignoring the power of imbalance and the conformification inherent in using those items for her own vanity. I'm just grateful for this relentless indigenous woman's social media, how she just pointed it out straightforward. 'Cause like I don't have that skill set, so I'm very flamboyant and open and like like again, when pr people critique me, like say, well you do it with such you know well for whatever reason if people want to praise the way I speak, fine. I'm just being assertive. I or I should say, isn't that what assertiveness is? eight. Institutional defenses and corporate narcissism. This is when the organization prioritizes its brand and tightly curates shows over acknowledging systemic wrongdoings. In the video she repeatedly refers to the script the teleprompter and the need to protect the image of the organization. She views the protest as a logistic problem that disrupted and curated perfection of current yeah disrupted the corate the curated perfective perfection of the event rather than the necessar n that a necessary interruption for justice. Like excuse me, like she she like I said, she's the cook. She had all the ingredients for the recipe. Now she's she's saying that her what she cooked was really good. Like how dare like it's like going to a restaurant and ordering ordering like something and you didn't get you didn't get what you ordered. Like and then you're making excuses that, we didn't put we didn't add salt, enough seasoning. Weaponizing ignorance. This is this is a choice to remain uneducated about marginalized groups to avoid the responsibility of an ally or respecting boundaries. In the video she explicitly admits she didn't know the protocols and argues they Marina Crane (54:28.578) shouldn't be expected to by stating, do I think we needed to apologize? No. I don't think she's asserting that she has the right to remain ignorant and that holding her to standard of education is a form of bullying. What a croc. See, we're we're talking about a systemic issue here. I mean, all people have a tendency to make mistakes, but but you know, exc excuse me. Like when when I'm talking to my cousins and and they're they're they have mental health issues of bullying or mansplain or lateral violence or misogyny, any anything that that has to do with an imbalance of of some you know, somebody being better than the other. Like what the hell? you know, I I don't know, you know, for throughout my life If I I don't know if I've ever apologized to people or or or like like I think people think like I I have to say, I apologize for this. No, I think a lot of times apologies are for me have been a conversation, like a conversation of actually, you know, getting talking about it, talking about like my beliefs versus your beliefs. deconstructing it, reconstructing it, having a lap, all those things. It's conflict resolution, having skills. What the hell's the matter with this woman? Again, does she even deserve to her name to be said? Lorraine Gilmore Peters, Executive Director. Poo poo on you. Like, excuse me, poor baby. You know, yes, it's hard to be a woman. It's really hard. Marina Crane (56:24.226) I mean really am I being a sarcastic bitch. So what would have been a respectful response? It all comes down to how well someone can hold radiational accountability basically. Here are nine ways to be a s antithesis of Lorraine. I mean colonial gaslighting. To read the entire article of Nuance call calls to action and reflection. You know, it's it's necess like it's just it's you gotta go to this website. Again, her name is Relentless Indigenous Woman. You'll re s shows she's you know, the whole n the whole notion of cultural appropriation versus cultural appreciation. She does she does web web art webinars or what they call web webinar. And and so, you know, take a take it Take it with a grain, you know, like take it, embrace it. Take what you need and then release it. You know, the hu you know, Indigenous you know, Miss Collingbull and Emma Morris, Miss World Canada 2022 for standing up and speaking on these issues. Ex you know, like they're examples of what it means to lead with love res despite receiving cruel and arrogant pushbacks. Like understand that. I mean my whole life I've had I've had that. I've had, you know, like pushbacks, like people people arrogance and you know, everything, verbal, physical, and you know like I I'll r I'll I'll I'll I'll reflect before I close. About thirty years ago, my my childhood friend who married into the Nakotas, the the the week that my niece was born. was the same week her her daughter was killed in a automobile accident. And it it made it made news. And the T V reporters re interviewed the father, my childhood friend's husband. And he made a comment about forgiveness, forgiving the person who had killed his daughter. And the comment was like, How can you how can you forgive? And and Marina Crane (58:45.312) when I think the reality when we talk about holistic holistic and col collective approaches to living and when I talk about historical like c what do they call it collect like restorative and transformative justice and that and that there are our jails and our even even people pretending to be indigenous in the jails so they can get like like extra like going to sweats and little you know, spiritual things bec because they want to, but there's no proof they're indigenous. So so it adds up like there's a whole bunch of indigenous people in the prisons. But but there are injustices that happen. And and again too, like even last week when that young twenty four year old woman was killed and no, you know, like nobody even mentioned her name for the first couple of days. Marina Crane (59:45.474) When when they come home when they come home from prison, they come home. Some go to urban areas and they end up, you know, in horrible situations and back in prison. But for those ones who have a land base, who ha who have an indigenous First Nations community, Inuit community, Metis community, restorative and tran transformative justice is is a process of forgiveness. So that's why I'm saying, you know, the when people when people like when Ashley and this this Emma Morrison are standing up speaking out on these issues, it means they lead with love instead of cruelty. Because we have to we have to embrace those people we love who did who who who did a crime. And and then we've got to release them on their own recognizance, hoping that they they never re re offend. Marina Crane (01:00:53.634) You know, my my my friend my childhood friend will never get her daughter back. But but it but it's knowing it's knowing that you know it it she's never gonna be here again and in in honor of her memory to forgive. These things that you know, you have to practice these things. And and for this woman who y I I don't wanna repeat her name again, but to be totally Totally ignorant of of the meaning of what it means to be indigenous, to to totally not understand what respect and and and showing respect for the people you love and those who taught you what what forgiveness is all about. With all the horrors of human trafficking, all the horrors of of children being born because of sexual assault. all the need to raise our children and and to try and and and say to them, you know, life is worth living. Don't give up. Yet yet in this day and age you have a young scholar, the youngest professor. He he you know, he learned to to read and write as a as a as a teenager. We have so many indigenous youth like that who have accomplished so much And then all of a sudden you have white privilege criticizing them that they're plagiarizing. Throughout my life I've had people accuse me of so many things, of my divine gift not being mine. I've had the honor and the privilege to go out and seek invisible helping hands and to embrace and release them. And some people don't have that and they end up killing themselves. Marina Crane (01:02:49.13) It's systemic racism. People want to poop it and say, it's alcohol and drugs. But when you have a group of people who want to look at you as if you're dumb, stupid, ignorant, and savage-like and have a low propensity for just understanding forgiveness and love. That's why I talk about healthy human sexuality. My parents loved each other, and so did my grandparents. And as much as we can and try to understand, love isn't isn't forever. We outgrow it. We outgrow each other. And when we do, we have to have the courage to embrace it and let it go. And if love is worth it, then hold on to it for as as long as you can. before you release it. That's the nature of life. You try to bastardize it or say anything else, that's your choice. That's your life. But anyway, I wanted to put something out there. I'm I'm like I said, this is my third attempt and hopefully hopefully, you know, you as listeners have received something from it. And like I said, it for me it was very difficult, a very provocative thing to talk about. But but an advocacy and and being an activist isn't easy. And and no matter what you try to contribute, even if it's even if it's criticized, just do it. You have the right to tell your story.
This was my experience in confronting Nathan Chasing Horse in 2007. He had no compassion for his victims. His propensity for girls started being more openly displayed by the summer of 2007. Documentaries, Articles, Indigenous Podcasts, My Podcast is under construction. Archival documenting yearly posts posted with transcripts will be published here. I’ll also link my YouTube videos associated with each podcast published. I also created a link to my GOFUNDME account. I may link my TikTok account
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Wednesday, 19 August 2026
The need for advocacy and activism
Monday, 17 August 2026
The importance of recognizing and dismantling the system of patriarchy
Marina, I read your entire transcript carefully — every section, every shift in topic, every analogy — and I want to give you something you actually asked for but didn’t explicitly name: a clear, structured, digestible summary of what you recorded, grounded directly in your document and citing the parts I’m drawing from. You covered a lot of ground, but there is a coherent through‑line. Here’s the distilled version. ⭐ Concise Takeaway Your recording weaves together four major themes: (1) political manipulation and data breaches in Alberta, (2) the dangers of artificial intelligence and loss of privacy, (3) systemic and historical violence against Indigenous peoples and women, (4) coercive control, patriarchy, and the psychological patterns that sustain them. 📌 Structured Summary (with citations from your document) 1. Alberta separatism, foreign interference & the Parker data breach You begin with the TikTok creator Augureal discussing Alberta separatism as an American operation. You quote the segment describing David Parker uploading 2.9 million Albertans’ private data into an app built by American operatives: “Parker had loaded two point nine million people onto that app… judges, journalists, politicians, First Nations chiefs… abuse victims.” You highlight the danger of data sovereignty, foreign political influence, and the fact that investigators found fake names inserted into voter lists to trace the breach. 2. AI, data centers, and the erosion of critical thinking You shift into concerns about artificial intelligence, privacy, and the environmental cost of data centers: “You look at the data centers, the amount of water that is needed to cool off the machinery… China was putting their data centers in the ocean.” You argue that AI is powerful but dangerous when people lack foundational skills like writing, grammar, and critical thinking. You compare using AI to typing “gobbledygook” on a typewriter without knowing how to form sentences. 3. Childhood development, desensitization, and sexualized culture You introduce Shahid Bolson’s critique of American hyper‑sexualization, quoting: “The average age of first exposure to pornography… is 11… your whole society is a grooming gang.” You connect this to your own childhood in poverty, the late arrival of electricity, and the contrast between urban childhood development and Indigenous childhood development. 4. Historical violence against Indigenous peoples You describe the long arc of colonial violence: “For the first one hundred years they killed five generations of our children… over a hundred and twenty five million killed through disease, warfare, torture.” You emphasize Indigenous cultural continuity, matriarchy, and the erasure of Indigenous voices in Western curriculum. 5. Patriarchy, coercive control, and gendered trauma You read aloud the “Seven Things Men Should Know About Patriarchy,” focusing on: how patriarchy harms women, how it also harms men by restricting emotional expression, how white women historically formed limerence groups to cope with abusive husbands. You cite: “Women have paid the highest price under patriarchy… they lose safety, freedom, opportunity.” You also discuss coercive control as a psychological pattern that affects Indigenous women differently due to systemic racism and lack of institutional protection. 6. Your personal experiences with racism, stalking, and boundary‑setting You describe being stalked in Utah, having your belongings moved during break‑ins, and witnessing how Indigenous women face compounded danger: “Why is it that there are so many murdered and missing Indigenous women? Because there are white men who are doing horrible things to their white women within their own homes.” You emphasize your lifelong practice of protecting your energy and autonomy — your “50 years” of resisting coercive control. 7. Matriarchy as a living system in Western Canada You argue that matriarchy is not a theory but a lived cultural structure: “You have to be born into matriarchy… here we are in Western Canada holding on for dear life to the very essence of matriarchy.” You contrast this with white women who may read about matriarchy but do not embody it. 8. Final reflections on coercive control You close by urging listeners to examine their own behavior:“Am I exhibiting coercive control? Am I doing this to someone whose culture I don’t understand?” You warn that coercive control has ripple effects across generations, especially for children.Marina Crane (00:11) Sorry, my my kitchen stuff is moving around. It's August 17th, and I'm going to play this tape. Now I was going to go on a different tangent here, but then this I came around my feed. So hopefully this will. ⁓ It has to do with separatism and this guy is called ⁓ A-U-G-U-R-E-A-L. ⁓ Age real. That's his that's his ⁓ call name on TikTok. And it's Alberta Separatism is an American operation. Five two point nine million Albertans were doxxed. Okay, so here's his his ⁓ blur. Ryan Alberto just pulled off what lawyers are calling the biggest data breach in Canadian history. This guy's name is David Parker. On April 29th, he got on stage in Edmonton to unveil a new app. Tells the crowd that it's the same tool that Trump used to help win the election in Michigan. And by the time he finishes talking, the cops are walking in. Both Elections Alberta and the Edmonton police came in to tell him that he was under investigation. And why was he under investigation? But Parker had loaded two point nine million people onto that app. Every voter in Alberta. Their names, home addresses, voter ID numbers. It's not just like regular citizens, which is a problem its own, but it was also like judges. Journalists, politicians, First Nations chiefs, senators, abuse victims. All of their home addresses sitting in a database. And it was open to anyone who get the link. The former Premier of Alberta even had his home address on there. But it gets a little bit weird. The app wasn't Canadian, it was built in Michigan by two American political operatives. One of them had been like posting chronically online about how Alberta should be annexed by America. And the other one, his uncle used to be the CEO of Blackwater. So those are the two people who built it. So back to the guy who's under investigation, so Parker, tells everyone that the app is basically like her phone book. It helps people find their friends. And then in a separate interview, he says that he paid $45,000 for that list on the black market. So the investigators figured it out anyway. They would sneak fake names into the official voter list, give it to the political parties, and then those fake names would show up in the app. So they could tell exactly where that data came from. This is a weird loop here. The mom of the guy who co-founded this app was just appointed to the Trump administration. The US ambassador to Canada is actually connected to their family. To be an ambassador to the Netherlands. While he was there, a network of fake Alberta separatist view two videos run in the Netherlands racked up 40 million views. Now we have three investigations running RCMP Elections Alberta and the Privacy Commissioner. And Parker hasn't cooperated with any of them. I think what concerns me most is like not only is this happening and it's horrifying and scary, no one knows where that data is or where it's being stored. Is it in Canadian servers, American servers, is it somewhere else? Basically docks 2.9 million people from all the Like I'm saying on the servers of a country that's trying to break Canada apart. I think this is one of those things where data sovereignty is very important. Guys Bureau just pulled off what lawyers are calling the biggest data breach in Canadian history. And this guy Okay, so ⁓ yeah. I think a lot of times people like for me, when it comes to politics, I leave it to other people. But the reality of it is like when You have artificial intelligence and you have people who don't know what the hell they're playing with. it's it's a bit unnerving. ⁓ Like you look at the data centers, the amount of water that's that is needed to cool off the machinery. I think it was about three years ago or f so China was putting their data centers in the ocean so the ocean waters would ⁓ cool cool off the system, which is what they're still doing. So it's not really affecting their water. But I think the more people ⁓ realize what artificial intelligence, the price it's taking. I mean, mind you, it's a nice little tool, but again, too, you know, are you ⁓ able to write a good essay without the assistance of artificial intelligence? Like really, it's tempting. I use it. I know a lot of people ⁓ who use it as well. But when it comes to privacy and you know people wanting to keep their privacy For me I d I just have become very public, but yet again, who am I? W you know, why would anybody find my podcast or even my information pertinent? When it comes to leadership within within the political structure of Alberta, especially around First Nations, that that to me ⁓ like where does it all go to? years ago, before we had a new election, I was talking with one of the ladies I grew up with and I said, you know, white people I said, they already know what the hell's going on. I said, I I used to have an instructor who had her PhD in psychology who worked for the Pentagon. And she'd do critical analysis f of the letters that the president would send to Russia or say the Russian president would send to the American president. And and she'd do an analysis. forensic analysis on it. So I I said to my childhood friend, I said, you know, these big oil companies in Calgary and Edmonton, again, understand, we're the third largest oil producer in the world. I said when it comes to First Nations, you know, we as First Nations people have got to get our shit together because these oil companies obviously have hired like you know, very skilled, forensic psychologists and people who can analyze a person's behavior and sort of predict the outcome. I said, our former chief, ⁓ Like you know, I mean it's one thing to be huffing and puffing like a big bad wolf and threatening people with their jobs and like, you know, follow me, I'm this huff huge wolf and you know everybody's sort of shaking in their bones, like and ev the other people are bowing down, kissing the ground, licking his paws and his ugly teeth snarling at you. ⁓ Like I mean I laugh because it's a good cartoon and it's a good analogy. But the reality of it is that white people already have printed the story. What, Goldilocks and you know, or the three bears or the wolf who huffed and puffed and blew the little pig's house down. Whatever the narrative is, these oil companies obviously hire professionals to do to do their grunt work, to do their analysis. I mean, who wouldn't if you had millions of dollars at stake? You want to know who you're playing with. And when you have vulnerable leaders who have a propensity for boys or who have a propensity for gambling, well you name it, they they they know the sweet spot. So I think that's probably one of the reasons why I find it so interesting in my podcast to talk about the psychology ⁓ and the intergenerational trauma. and the roots of things that, you know, we really don't sort of get a grasp of. But some of these things are are sort of universal. And and I usually focus on on women because, you know, for for ⁓ a lot like history, we've we've always been fighting. It it doesn't matter, you know, your cultural background, it's women in general because of of patriarchy. The reality though is that ⁓ when I think and I listen to some of these podcasts of brilliant women who talk about history, especially me M-E-E-N-A-Ray R A E talks about the conquistadors and just the whole notion of like how they were trafficking, you know, fourteen, fifteen year olds, which again in twenty twenty-six in the city of Calgary in the province of Alberta. ⁓ you know, the highest ⁓ the most targeted are indigenous children in foster care who are fourteen years old. So so when we look at it historically and we see this happened in the fifteen hundreds, go, my goodness, what, five hundred years ago? And the mentality, like even ⁓ theories of like how Epstein and like and even like Nathan Chasey Morrison, these people who came in and started human trafficking and doing all this criminal work, the behavior, the forensic of it, is that the the the the structure was already in place. So so you have to understand like systemic racism. It's a s it we're I was born into it. Like it's a house with with a shoddy roof and maybe the basement's cracking up or sides need to be done. You know, renovations need to be done in this shoddy house that I was born into. Now that that's an analogy of of of what was established when Epstein and Nathan Chasing Horse came into communities and and you know, sort of messed around because the the f the framework was already there. All they did is they they just sort of looked at certain things and and romanticized it, like publ like made it look alluring, because because that's part of ⁓ ritual abuse or ⁓ stuff that's been happening ⁓ in prehistoric times. And you know, for some Reason because you have an elected president who's a billionaire that you know, we somehow think that we're out Marina Crane (09:44) ⁓ good morning again. I'm sorry. This technology sort of really boggles my mind. I'm gonna join edit when I go back, but ⁓ anyway it's August seventeenth. And I g I had something that was about the separatist and stuff, but I'm gonna play this and this is Stella's Stella World S T E L L period W O O R L L D and it's America America has a culture a culture problem. And ⁓ S H A H I D Bolson B O L S E N is asking the question most people would rather avoid. In in this interview, Bolson points the pornography only fans celebrity scandals, cosmic and body enhanced culture, sexual violence And the increasingly early exposure of children to sexualized content. His argument is deliberately provocative when an entire culture normalizes sexuality while children are exposed to it younger and younger. Where do we draw the line between entertainment and exploitation and grooming? Some of the statistics cited in this interview are claimed that should be independently verified, but the larger question is difficult to dismiss. what happens to a society when sexualization becomes so normalized that we stop questioning it. And and and I think that like the whole premise of my talking about healthy human sexuality i is in terms of childhood development, in talking about my own life, I I'm an elder now and and the progress of technology or even the progress of civilization, like I in my childhood childhood I ate rabbit for breakfast. I'd get up like with my father and my older brother, five, six, seven year olds, going down the the line and picking up rabbits so we could bring it home so my mother could cook. We'd skin them and clean them and then my mother would cook them. That happened until like I was around twelve, and I think around that time ⁓ we got ⁓ electricity in our old little shack. All th these things looking at like, that was poverty, and I'm going, No, I'm trying to establish what co ⁓ progress is because even ⁓ by all biologically and things that were happening in terms of my own child development, I I think a lot of people have assumed like, you know, when they're doing ⁓ analysis, especially with early childhood, they're they're they're taking the sample from from children who have been urbanized, who've been, you know, around in neighborhoods and in the same, you know, community that close. Whereas no, for me, like I saw my first white person when I was five. And then even when I was thirty and I worked up north in northern Alberta, I met a lady who had seen her first white person when she was eighteen. So so when I talk about systemic racism in, say, Ontario and Quebec, they've had that experience for at least a hundred years more than Western Canada. So a lot of the things that I do talk about in terms of the like what what I said in terms of desensitization and and what it is to to what it what is healthy human sexuality. And and the question of it is like you have to really think because either you're a grandmother or a parent or you're an actual person who's watching using your your iPad or going in through social media. The reality of it is I I'll use an example. When I s I I studied some computer programming and the instructor said, you know it's one thing and again this This was a time when we didn't have apps like the size of the of an iPhone. And he said he said, ⁓ you know, all you have to do is get into the app, learn how to maneuver within the app, and then come out of the app and you know it. But the analogy too is like it's like a typewriter. You know, you have the typewriter, you have the keys and you punch the keys and you're supposed to write an essay. Okay, but you yourself have to put the words in and you're c constructing the essay. And and that's the thing about software and technology and artificial intelligence is that when you don't have the capacity to even understand sentence structure or grammar and your typing, it doesn't make any sense. Cause you you're you're just tight tight as typing gobbledygook. So that's why I'm saying when it comes to critical thinking, especially when it comes to the desensitization of human sexuality, it's important to really be critical. At the same time too, when I was studying in Utah, I had a instructor with a PhD in chemistry. And one of his assignments ⁓ was to develop a motherboard the size of a thumbnail. Now lo and behold, all of a sudden, Abercadabra, we have the iPhone. See, those things were were being established and were were being documented. At the same time too, they were talking about ⁓ the underground, like the nuclear subs that went into the deep ocean. And the things that they were discovering in the deep ocean were the ton tonnage, the pressure of the water on certain objects at a very low, at a deep, deep depth, that eventually it'll come to the surface and come into our school curriculum. So a lot of these things that are happening in terms of artificial intelligence as well is that the critical thinking skills of of children is important because the reality of it is what is fantasy and what is delusional. What is an illusion? What is actual real science? And and to to do the real science, you really have to use your muscle, that brain, and and realize like I really have to learn how to physically take a pen in my hand and write an essay or a sentence. My name is Marina. Look, look, run, run. Really, we with artificial intelligence, we have to approach it this way. But if we're gonna stay in the preliminary preschool stage of it because because of our our our our we're like this flight and fright response of our brain, we really have to understand our own brain chemistry and how we're going to develop it, as well as like take charge of it, because we're only we're only as skilled as what we put into the machinery. And if all we're feeding it is gobbledygook, then that's all that's there's going to be. So so that's why like you look at all this stuff that comes out with these bots that come into ⁓ any any space. So some of the excerpts that I have, I'm I'm hoping that you'd listen to them. ⁓ there are there are some really keen things that I think are important and beneficial to to women and men as well if they l do listen. So again this fellow ⁓ Again his A S H A H I D his last name is B O L S E N. I I will play it and it's the handle in social media that you can find it is on Stell World. S T E L L dot world. Someone from the country that gave us Jeffrey Epstein, gave us Diddy, gave us OnlyFans, gave us Barbie, the country that ranks the highest in the production and the consumption of pornography, a country where ⁓ 1,500 women are murdered every year in so-called domestic violence, where homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women, where 24 women per minute in your country are victims of ⁓ sexual assault or some form of physical violence or stalking. That's over 12 million women per year. You know? Over over a third of the women in your country are clinically depressed. And good night, how could they not be? Over half of all adult men between the ages of 18 and 45 have OnlyFans subscriptions. And almost two million of your women are selling themselves on that platform. It's dystopian. ⁓ that their bodies are the source of their self-worth, are the are the are the source of their value in your society. And that those bodies have to conform to a very rigid ⁓ pornographic cartoonish male fantasy criteria. I mean you've gone so far in defining women by their body parts that if a man gets those same body parts surgically manufactured and fastened to himself, then you'll make him woman of the year. Did you know that the average age ⁓ of first exposure to pornography in your country, in the United States, is 11? 11. It means you start training your boys on degrading and objectifying and sexually abusing women before they even reach puberty. I'm telling you, your whole society is a grooming gang. It's just one giant grooming gang. Not to mention the vile and the vulgar language that you use about women, the derogatory words you use about women, the names you call them. And you normalize this kind of d denigration of women to such an extent that women themselves have even started to use it about themselves. Your whole pop culture is a full frontal assault on the dignity and the honor of women. I mean so fr So again, like I I I tried to start this podcast and then I something happens and then I restart it again. But the reality of it is during my podcast I've talked about the conquistadors and and then I've talked about ⁓ black women and slavery and just the whole nature of plantations that were breeding farms and then the whole ⁓ reality of like why weren't Native Americans enslaved like they did with the black. And and I and I look and I'm saying, look, understand this. Genetically we were isolated for thousands, like ten, twenty thousand years from the rest of the world. The rest of the world whose whose whose society was in dealing with livestock, domesticating animals, you know, and and and being around animals where these animals were ⁓ like the whole disease of what was happening, what what what like we'll say what happened overseas in terms of all the diseases that that were Like just that in itself and bringing it into the Americas and the la Mylar detection in South America and other places where they see these civilizations that that ⁓ have o overgrown like the forest, the jungles. Not not only that too, but civilization has tr has silenced ⁓ indigenous voice. So like with my podcast as an indigenous woman ⁓ an elder, I like I'm talking about the context of growing up in Western society and the lack of curriculum, like the the lack of understanding of exactly who we are. Like the Oshati Shakoi, the seven council fires of the Sioux Nation, our blood type is O. We are universal donors. The first 500 the first 100 years when the Portuguese, Dutch, Spanish, English, and French came. for the first one hundred years they killed five generations of our children. That's that's over a hundred and twenty five million killed through disease, warfare, torture. Like when I say the the most ⁓ horrific were like the Portuguese and Dutch. I mean a lot of people talk about the Spaniards too and how cruel the conquistadors were. Then there's also the English and then the French. So all this systemic structure of of ⁓ conquer and divide and you know take and and under the guise of a a flag or or some sort of symbol that represents, you know, something divine. when the reality of it is like the indigenous people were hunters and gatherers. And our our rituals and ceremonies that were handed down for not just a thousand years, we're talking twenty to ten thousand years. Some of the things that have been scheduled, have not scheduled, that have been documented in terms of civilization are are long before the pyramids. The the hypothetical theories of exactly what science can map and what they can see now is is the reality of so much was taken and so much was was hidden. Like even you look at you look at the produce, go into your fridge and and check which which fruits and vegetables, like tomatoes, potatoes, like there 70% of all vegetables were cultivated in the Americas. So what makes America great? The indigenous people. And our culture and and our attitude towards towards how we're not above you know the we're we're related to all living things. And yet and yet here's a European saying, no, we're we're we're we're not related to anybody. We're we are our own identity. We're individualistic. Which which is is led to all this. And I ⁓ the the reality, like I said, with women, and and this is why I'm I'm so critical on white women, is is because there there is a tipping point. Where where now all of a sudden you're you're you're being fragmented, your your your your what they call your fragile because for centuries, like the last five hundred years, you've been put up on a pedestal. You haven't had to be bred bred in plantations for your babies. You haven't had your babies pulled from you because you don't have sovereignty over your own children. Like in twenty twenty six, Bill S six three or six two in Parliament is trying to be passed to change the Indian Act so indigenous people have sovereignty over our children. So we can have group homes, group shelters, we can have our babies, our children staying in our communities, in First Nations, anyway, in Metis communities. rather than being shipped off into the city of Calgary, Edmonton, you or the province or another province. I mean, even in the fifties and sixties, they were sending indigenous children all over the world. You could buy a child for five bucks, an indigenous child. So you you tell me what privilege is and and how fragile white women are today, realizing like, my goodness, my children, my seven generations of children. Look at look at what happens. Like you're it's almost like you're being cornered. You're cornered, and that's why white supremacy is like, my goodness, we gotta stop this. We gotta stop this encroachment. Because the reality of it is like look at what you've done. All all for the sake of what? Whiteness or or like fragility? There there's a there's a tape, there there is a video that really strikes home because the reality of If if I can find this here. The reality of ⁓ some of these some of some of the psychology that that I think some people tend to forget. So what happens when a target of coercive control finally tells somebody? Well, the coercive controller has spent years camouflaged to appear credible to the very people that they approach for help. Some So again when I talk about a lot of this stuff with coercive control it it it has it has its moments in the in the sense that I think a lot of times Here's what the research actually shows you of ⁓ There's a lot of stuff that I wanted to put out there but I'll shut this off because ⁓ I I wanna read this aloud about patriarchy. Seven things I wish I wish more men knew about patriarchy and I wish I'd known sooner. One, patriarchy is a system of inequality where men hold more authority and power. The moment we hear the word, many of us feel defensive, which makes it hard to have an honest conversation. Patriarchy exists before any one of us was born and continues because generations inherited without questioning it. It didn't create it, it But I absolutely participated in it. So do you know? Once we understand this, we can stop defending ourselves and begin to examine the system and how it affects us all. This is from ⁓ TikTok Nathan.sol.au stn. ⁓ Number two, women have paid the highest price under patriarchy. In a culture that values men more than women, women lose. They lose safety, freedom, opportunity, their voices, and their power. We see this in the deport disproportionate rate of domestic abuse, sexual violence, coercive control, and forced marriage experienced by women and girls across the world since patriarchy gives men more power, dismantling much. be over must be our responsibility. So when I when I talk about limerence and I talk about coercive control and I talk about intergenerational trauma and I and I and I use the the the metaphor of white women because because it's it's the white women who who s who had these abusive men. ⁓ It's white women who started going to other women for therapy and they started forming groups like AA but it was called for limerence because even though the husbands had a addictions and they were abusive and you know killing them, they they realized as women they were the ones who were freely participating because they had bonded, they had a trauma bond to their white husbands. And so in in in establishing limerance support groups, they were able to ⁓ debrief create nar narrative in a safe space and and guided through guided imagery we're able to eliminate some of this self-defeating rhetoric that they've created in the in their biology. And and so I I use that as an example because like who who else is who else is going to be you know vocalizing and saying, look at me. You know, much of much of society looks at white women in terms of the beauty standards and and cosmetics and all this stuff. And and yet at the same time, they're women. And and that's why I think it's so fragile now. They're so such in a fragile state that that they d they don't even know that they're also practicing coercive control to women of color. Number three, and that's just my opinion. Number three. Probably the cleverest thing patriarchy ever did was convince us that masculinity is a default setting for humanity. It taught us that leadership, authority, and power are masculine and therefore worth of admiration. At the time, empathy, cooperation, vulnerability, and care were dismissed as feminine and therefore weak, so we cut ourselves off from half of who we are. again, you know, the reality too is like when you know, even in case studies, I I remember going into the library at Brigham Young University and there was a caged ⁓ locked up section and in that section they there were there were books that were were showing the anatomy of Native Americans who who were hermaphrodites, who, you know, had ⁓ again, the Sioux people had three gender types. A lot of this pseudo hermaphrodites and hermaphrodites the highest rate and concentration of hermaphrodites is in Israel, like in the Middle East. Because when women are bombarded every day of their life with terror and just extreme violence, it does something to to the oxytocin, you know, like or or it increases the dopamine, which is opposite of what women's health needs. And because of that, children are born prem like not premature in the sense of like not fully developed, but it's their their brain, the amygdala or what you know, just the whole nature of biology. So they're the first two weeks of every f male, a mammal is female. So understand the bombardment of the exterior environment having on women that are constantly in battle mode. And and so the babies are born and then and as they grow up they start, you know develop like either they're born with two sexes or they're they slowly develop ⁓ when they reach puberty. Like all that has been in theory of like is it environmental or is it nurture versus nature? But but that's a case study and it it's been studied stuff like this has been studied by by by people. Now, again, when we're talking about nurturing and the like I said, when when they looked at Native Americans and they saw that we had three gender types, they thought we were savages. But we but everyone had a role. Everyone th was there was a a a a ritual or ceremony. And I think a lot of humanity we've gone away from it. And sometimes I think for white women, my opinion, they've gone a bit too far. Because what do they do? They marry our indigenous men and then they start mansplaying to people like myself what what I should do as an indigenous woman and how I should carry on ceremony and ritual. Like when we talk about coercive control, I I kid you not. If if I could sit a white woman down and say, Look, this is what you're doing, do you do you know what you're doing? Because, you know, apparently it it's a form of escapism or or some something that they're projecting on the reality of exactly what they're facing. Because, you know, by the time you become a senior citizen and and you have nobody and you you're only you're forced to go into a nursing home and you're surrounded by by horny old white men who you know come creeping along the corridor. Or sit looking into your room, and you're totally disgusted because you're you're not interested. Yet, you know, during the pandemic, there was the highest ⁓ rate of sexually transmitted diseases. So so when I do talk about healthy human sexuality, I talk about it because it's important. It's a part of life. And for some unknown reason, young people think that when you get older it's done, you know, like some sort of magic wand. It doesn't exist. And I'm going, no, it does. It doesn't it's and it's basic. It starts from childhood and you carry it with you. It doesn't change. What changes is your ability to understand and how to process things, which is important for your mental health and and for everybody's concerned. So ⁓ again too, like I I've I've lost this page where where ⁓ I was talking about this ⁓ yeah, here we go. Was it number three? ⁓ Number four. This is exactly why boys grow up believing their worth depends on winning, achieving, controlling, and never appearing weak. This creates men who struggle to rest for help, struggle to cry or feel good enough unless they're proving themselves. So this system that hurts women also asks men to abandon parts of their own humanity in order to belong. And and that's the reality of it. Like even ⁓ to the amount of men that die sooner than women, you know, like I've warned my own brothers, like, take care of yourselves. But to to appear vulnerable, you know, in a society that that makes it look like they're weak. Number five, if equality feels like a loss, then it's because you're benefiting from someone else's lack of privilege. The system built on inequal inequal power always rewards one group with advantages that another group pays for. Men's authority and power have come at an expense of women's freedom, autonomy, and safety, and they continue to experience discrimination and violence. And and that's the whole point too when it comes to recipro reciprocity. is like when like somebody said, Well hurt people, hurt people. And I'd say, Explain. Well, you know, especially when you're grifted by white women and you're a woman of color and they c you know, because they've been hurting. But they they, you know, but doing that to like hurt people, hurt people. Like I'm tired of being hurt. ⁓ number six. We have to stop saying, well, I'm one of the good men and use it as reason to do nothing. This just keeps your attention on yourself. We have to be self-accountable to the ways we move through the world. Are we enforcing a system rooted in control or inequal unequal power? Or are we creating more relevance and equality for women around us? The world will change when enough men come care more about dismantling the blueprint instead of protecting their plain place within it. So so yes, the the ⁓ the narcissism, the Machiavellian, the coercive control, men cheating and and using that type of coercive control over their wives. And you know, I think ⁓ sometimes when women don't have community or women haven't had the the ability from childhood, teenage throughout their whole life. Not not just when it's time for them to have children and then, you know, go to ⁓ what school meetings and stuff with other women. I I'm talking about community from the time you're born until the time you die. And and I think white women in general don't have that. Whereas indigenous women, and I'm only saying this in my opinion because I'm I live in Western Canada. and I've grown up seeing it and I I've seen it in my community when this group of young women have come together to support each other against Nathan Chasing horse. These things a lot of women a lot of white women who live in urban areas don't have from childhood, teenage, ⁓ young adult, middle life, all the way. And then all of a sudden when you become a pensioner and you're forced to go into a nursing home, you're you're like you're fighting to breathe. You're fighting f to have some sort of autonomy and and you're afraid. Like like that the one lady she d she the face that she she like her face just wrinkled all up when she was talking about the these men in the nursing homes like like it like how disgusting it was for her to to be around them. Like and again that's because these men have grown up with this patriarchy. Okay, seven. So where do men begin? I'd say it begins in your own home and in your own relationships. Take an honest look at the ways you might still be playing your part in it. Do the control Do you control your partner's sexuality? ⁓ accept expect her to carry the emotional labor? Are you defensive when she gives you feedback? Do you dismiss her intuition or assume your opinion carries more weight? How do you speak about women when they are not in the room? What jokes do you laugh at? Do you challenge your mate? your mates when they objectify and disrespect women, how do you treat your mom, your sisters, your colleague, and the women you meet in public? And and that is my point. I like when I talk to my my relatives and I hear what their sons say to them, or I hear like that they're still enabling their sons And and I say to them, No, my my nephews, my nieces, like they they don't come around. I said, 'cause they know better. They know better than to come around if they're drinking or drugging. They know that. I said, I d I just don't tolerate it. And and so That is the whole point when I realize like the older a woman gets and the more she enables the men in her life to have coercive control over her, even though she's the the single breadwinner. It it it just amazes me to know in that these things still happen and but it's the reality and and how how do you deal with it? How do you how does anybody deal with it? So Again, part of my podcast is is to deconstruct and talk about talk about things that have meant something to me, things that ⁓ I I wish I had known, but again I I spent most of my career profiling dangerous and violent and controlling men. The first five years of my career at New Scotland Yard were running the sexual offences section, where I had the remit of Pan London to make the links across stranger abduction, rape and murder cases and to help identify the perpetrator. So I'm talking about serial rapists and serial killers, and often when we detected them and arrested them, they had domestic violence in their history, and that always intrigued me. And I wanted to look at a bigger pool of offenders. So I profiled domestic violence, sexual and serious offenders, 452 of them. And I found that one in twelve of them rate inside the home, they're significant women in their lives, and outside the home, making the links that these dangerous men offend against significant women and those women that they don't know. That's such an important link. So that it's the misnomer to talk about the stranger rapist or serial killer. And often at that time the offender profile was the off-the-shelf offender profile was that he was age 30 to 40, lived alone or with his mother, he had six inch thick bottle lensed glasses, couldn't interact with women. I blew that profile up because these men did get married and the women reported them. For violence and controlling behaviour, coercive controlling behaviour, some of the worst things that I've seen, and often the women were being ignored. So we have to make those links. And I wrote up a report called Getting Away with It. Forty offenders are in the back of this report to show you that it was routine. And getting away with it, only two of them had prison sentences. Only two of them out of 452. Many of them were psychopaths, and we know. The this is the cohort of offenders where we would find psychopaths. Dr. Robert Hare's work from 1993, 25% of domestic violence offenders are psychopaths. The number is far greater, in my opinion, from all the work that I've done. And I've put all of this learning into a risk assessment model called the DASH. The domestic abuse, stalking harassment, and so called honor based violence risk model. It's a long mouthful, which is why we say the DASH. And I run university accredited training. For everybody now to attend. So if you're a professional working with victims, you absolutely must come on the course. But it's open to everyone because I want to mainstream the learning. Psychopaths are amongst us. They look the same, they're charming, very charming individuals, but they're also very controlling. And I want you to spot those signs. They're coercively controlling. So come on the University Accredited Dash Training. My next class is March the 11th and 12th. Okay, so again she's promoting herself but the reality of it is is is basic. So if we have white women who are around and have published stuff about white men, then what does it say about other men? And what does it say about like when I lived in Utah as a as a woman of color, I had white roommates and and And we'd have break ins. And rather than targeting my my other roommates, they would only move my belongings around. I I had been stalked for a year when I was just going to do my job because I was a a minority. So so you take it for what it is. Why is it that there are so many murdered and missing indigenous women? Because there are white men who are doing horrible things to their white women. within their own homes. So when I talk about my own my own stuff and ⁓ and and I start you know saying things about ⁓ domestic violence and and you know the need to to ⁓ have some sort of dialogue trusting people maneuvering and getting help through intergenerational trauma, it's because it's it's double. It's double the fold. So you you only have the perspective of white women, but you don't have the the the like like somebody had said something about somebody making a complaint and they said for every complaint there are seven more that did not complain. Okay, so imagine that If you have white women complaining, imagine the seven more that that indigenous women and women of color have have you know said, Hey, this has happened to me and nobody has paid attention. Because because there are men out there who are in positions of authority and patriarchy who are in enabling this, who are are so enmeshed in in this coercive control. And training might and you know that's why even though even though people and women might think, no, it's it's over there. It's not happening it's not happening here. And ⁓ I mean there are other there are other ⁓ parts of what is the malicious syndrome? There there are other like podcasts that I that have have talked about stuff and there was there was one about coercive control and I don't know if if I've got it here. ⁓ I'm just trying to find it. is it? Because a tactile after the revolution I don't know my I don't I hope that we Are you still sorry about that. Otto it is a f this is up our father and Sidland. No, can't find it. But it has to do with coercive control. And the reason I'm saying this is like like I said, hurt people, hurt people. And ⁓ there was a book on ⁓ by women of color talking about not trusting white women. And and that's the scary part of it. And I think it's the scary part for white women to sort of settle in and digest it because because that that in itself like I I had an acquaintance she's an acquaintance now because she's ghosted me, ⁓ at sixty-five, decided to go back after being in the ⁓ art community, decide to go back and get her master's so she could be a therapist at sixty five. ⁓ the reality of it is like ⁓ and not just her, there I know another indigenous woman, sixty five too, is going back to become a counselor. And and that's their, you know, if they're empowering themselves, fine. But the reality of it is that ⁓ coercive control When when you're doing it at a because it's such a easy thing to slip into and and you're you're you're you don't even realize that you're projecting it onto to me, like a a a woman of like a minority who, you know, my whole life I've I've protected myself and I tried continuously to protect myself over people who want to control me. Coercive control. ⁓ Like I there was one when I was talking to my niece, I said to her, you know, a studies prove that if you work on something for and put in ten thousand hours you become a master at it. So so that's why when I talk about coercive control and my protecting myself and keeping myself in a safe place, like my energy, that's fifty years. Fifty years of of of doing this and having people ⁓ try to labeled me or to put me in a you know put put me in a place where they feel comfortable. And and I'm going, no, I'm I'm telling the truth here. I I'm I'm I'm maneuvering through my life trying to understand why people treat me the way they treat me. And and for me the aha moment or the epiphany was that, you know, I think like hurt people hurt people. And and again it when I try to talk about matriarchy to white women They say, I've read it, or I'm, you know, I'm really sorry that ⁓ my people did this to your people. Like analogies like that, and I'm going, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. You have to be born into matriarchy. So when I talk about my community and Western Canada and indigenous people, especially in Alberta, like I wish the hell w people would understand matriarchy. and and and what it is that indigenous people in western Canada have. That that the whole world has been fighting for what couple of thousand years in in overseas with the Romans and the Spartans and all that. And here we are in Western Canada holding on for dear life to the very essence of matriarchy and saying, look, this is who we are as women. And this is what women of the world are trying to do. And there are very isolated places around the world that are in the same situation as Alberta. But the point of it is like you've got to wake up. This whole patriarchy and and how destructive and coercive it is in just pr promoting and creating a delusion for our children. Like the fellow said, you know, look at all that's being done. just just to the propaganda against women. Like when I took a j gender studies course and the the the English words slut, whore, prost like bugger, like there there's only four word like for certain words that describe men, like bugger. Bitch, slut, you name it, there are more derogatory terms for females. And and so like what is the reality of it? W what what is happening? I I really think I really think creator, grandmothers and grandfathers, for what if people don't want to believe and they don't think these things have meaning. I I look at the historical aspect of what I know and I know what a lot of other indigenous people know, and I know their creator and the grandfathers and grandmothers will is being done. If we cannot just accept it When I have people that have come into my life, very intimate people, that I've had to release, and it's not my doing. It's creator and the grandfathers and grandmothers guiding all this. I accept it. I let it go. And I'm grateful for what I've learned. But the reality of it is like I think people who have been in positions of power in patriarchy, both male and female. really need to look at themselves and and think, am I am I ⁓ am I ⁓ exhibiting coercive control? Am I doing this to someone who I don't understand their culture, their values and beliefs? Am I doing this? Things that you've got to think about, and I hope that sort of digests into your system today because, you know, it's a very important thing. Because a Coercive control when you see it and you wonder, you know, why do men ⁓ why do women put up with men who cheat on them? Why why you know, w what's happening here? Coercive control and again, what is the what is the result of enabling for decades like staying in a relationship like that? Or or for that matter, if you're the woman who's having an affair, why why are you being Why are you participating in this coercive control? All these things, even though you think it does not affect anybody else but you, you're wrong. The ripple effect reaches down to the very innocent, the very vulnerable. Have a good day and ⁓ we'll talk to you later. ⁓ good morning again. I'm sorry. This technology sort of really boggles my mind. I'm gonna join edit when I go back, but ⁓ anyway it's August seventeenth. And I g I had something that was about the separatist and stuff, but I'm gonna play this and this is Stella's Stella World S T E L L period W O O R L L D and it's America America has a culture a culture problem. And ⁓ S H A H I D Bolson B O L S E N is asking the question most people would rather avoid. In in this interview, Bolson points the pornography only fans celebrity scandals, cosmic and body enhanced culture, sexual violence And the increasingly early exposure of children to sexualized content. His argument is deliberately provocative when an entire culture normalizes sexuality while children are exposed to it younger and younger. Where do we draw the line between entertainment and exploitation and grooming? Some of the statistics cited in this interview are claimed that should be independently verified, but the larger question is difficult to dismiss. what happens to a society when sexualization becomes so normalized that we stop questioning it. And and and I think that like the whole premise of my talking about healthy human sexuality i is in terms of childhood development, in talking about my own life, I I'm an elder now and and the progress of technology or even the progress of civilization, like I in my childhood childhood I ate rabbit for breakfast. I'd get up like with my father and my older brother, five, six, seven year olds, going down the the line and picking up rabbits so we could bring it home so my mother could cook. We'd skin them and clean them and then my mother would cook them. That happened until like I was around twelve, and I think around that time ⁓ we got ⁓ electricity in our old little shack. All th these things looking at like, that was poverty, and I'm going, No, I'm trying to establish what co ⁓ progress is because even ⁓ by all biologically and things that were happening in terms of my own child development, I I think a lot of people have assumed like, you know, when they're doing ⁓ analysis, especially with early childhood, they're they're they're taking the sample from from children who have been urbanized, who've been, you know, around in neighborhoods and in the same, you know, community that close. Whereas no, for me, like I saw my first white person when I was five. And then even when I was thirty and I worked up north in northern Alberta, I met a lady who had seen her first white person when she was eighteen. So so when I talk about systemic racism in, say, Ontario and Quebec, they've had that experience for at least a hundred years more than Western Canada. So a lot of the things that I do talk about in terms of the like what what I said in terms of desensitization and and what it is to to what it what is healthy human sexuality. And and the question of it is like you have to really think because either you're a grandmother or a parent or you're an actual person who's watching using your your iPad or going in through social media. The reality of it is I I'll use an example. When I s I I studied some computer programming and the instructor said, you know it's one thing and again this This was a time when we didn't have apps like the size of the of an iPhone. And he said he said, ⁓ you know, all you have to do is get into the app, learn how to maneuver within the app, and then come out of the app and you know it. But the analogy too is like it's like a typewriter. You know, you have the typewriter, you have the keys and you punch the keys and you're supposed to write an essay. Okay, but you yourself have to put the words in and you're c constructing the essay. And and that's the thing about software and technology and artificial intelligence is that when you don't have the capacity to even understand sentence structure or grammar and your typing, it doesn't make any sense. Cause you you're you're just tight tight as typing gobbledygook. So that's why I'm saying when it comes to critical thinking, especially when it comes to the desensitization of human sexuality, it's important to really be critical. At the same time too, when I was studying in Utah, I had a instructor with a PhD in chemistry. And one of his assignments ⁓ was to develop a motherboard the size of a thumbnail. Now lo and behold, all of a sudden, Abercadabra, we have the iPhone. See, those things were were being established and were were being documented. At the same time too, they were talking about ⁓ the underground, like the nuclear subs that went into the deep ocean. And the things that they were discovering in the deep ocean were the ton tonnage, the pressure of the water on certain objects at a very low, at a deep, deep depth, that eventually it'll come to the surface and come into our school curriculum. So a lot of these things that are happening in terms of artificial intelligence as well is that the critical thinking skills of of children is important because the reality of it is what is fantasy and what is delusional. What is an illusion? What is actual real science? And and to to do the real science, you really have to use your muscle, that brain, and and realize like I really have to learn how to physically take a pen in my hand and write an essay or a sentence. My name is Marina. Look, look, run, run. Really, we with artificial intelligence, we have to approach it this way. But if we're gonna stay in the preliminary preschool stage of it because because of our our our our we're like this flight and fright response of our brain, we really have to understand our own brain chemistry and how we're going to develop it, as well as like take charge of it, because we're only we're only as skilled as what we put into the machinery. And if all we're feeding it is gobbledygook, then that's all that's there's going to be. So so that's why like you look at all this stuff that comes out with these bots that come into ⁓ any any space. So some of the excerpts that I have, I'm I'm hoping that you'd listen to them. ⁓ there are there are some really keen things that I think are important and beneficial to to women and men as well if they l do listen. So again this fellow ⁓ Again his A S H A H I D his last name is B O L S E N. I I will play it and it's the handle in social media that you can find it is on Stell World. S T E L L dot world. Someone from the country that gave us Jeffrey Epstein, gave us Diddy, gave us OnlyFans, gave us Barbie, the country that ranks the highest in the production and the consumption of pornography, a country where ⁓ 1,500 women are murdered every year in so-called domestic violence, where homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women, where 24 women per minute in your country are victims of ⁓ sexual assault or some form of physical violence or stalking. That's over 12 million women per year. You know? Over over a third of the women in your country are clinically depressed. And good night, how could they not be? Over half of all adult men between the ages of 18 and 45 have OnlyFans subscriptions. And almost two million of your women are selling themselves on that platform. It's dystopian. ⁓ that their bodies are the source of their self-worth, are the are the are the source of their value in your society. And that those bodies have to conform to a very rigid ⁓ pornographic cartoonish male fantasy criteria. I mean you've gone so far in defining women by their body parts that if a man gets those same body parts surgically manufactured and fastened to himself, then you'll make him woman of the year. Did you know that the average age ⁓ of first exposure to pornography in your country, in the United States, is 11? 11. It means you start training your boys on degrading and objectifying and sexually abusing women before they even reach puberty. I'm telling you, your whole society is a grooming gang. It's just one giant grooming gang. Not to mention the vile and the vulgar language that you use about women, the derogatory words you use about women, the names you call them. And you normalize this kind of d denigration of women to such an extent that women themselves have even started to use it about themselves. Your whole pop culture is a full frontal assault on the dignity and the honor of women. I mean so fr So again, like I I I tried to start this podcast and then I something happens and then I restart it again. But the reality of it is during my podcast I've talked about the conquistadors and and then I've talked about ⁓ black women and slavery and just the whole nature of plantations that were breeding farms and then the whole ⁓ reality of like why weren't Native Americans enslaved like they did with the black. And and I and I look and I'm saying, look, understand this. Genetically we were isolated for thousands, like ten, twenty thousand years from the rest of the world. The rest of the world whose whose whose society was in dealing with livestock, domesticating animals, you know, and and and being around animals where these animals were ⁓ like the whole disease of what was happening, what what what like we'll say what happened overseas in terms of all the diseases that that were Like just that in itself and bringing it into the Americas and the la Mylar detection in South America and other places where they see these civilizations that that ⁓ have o overgrown like the forest, the jungles. Not not only that too, but civilization has tr has silenced ⁓ indigenous voice. So like with my podcast as an indigenous woman ⁓ an elder, I like I'm talking about the context of growing up in Western society and the lack of curriculum, like the the lack of understanding of exactly who we are. Like the Oshati Shakoi, the seven council fires of the Sioux Nation, our blood type is O. We are universal donors. The first 500 the first 100 years when the Portuguese, Dutch, Spanish, English, and French came. for the first one hundred years they killed five generations of our children. That's that's over a hundred and twenty five million killed through disease, warfare, torture. Like when I say the the most ⁓ horrific were like the Portuguese and Dutch. I mean a lot of people talk about the Spaniards too and how cruel the conquistadors were. Then there's also the English and then the French. So all this systemic structure of of ⁓ conquer and divide and you know take and and under the guise of a a flag or or some sort of symbol that represents, you know, something divine. when the reality of it is like the indigenous people were hunters and gatherers. And our our rituals and ceremonies that were handed down for not just a thousand years, we're talking twenty to ten thousand years. Some of the things that have been scheduled, have not scheduled, that have been documented in terms of civilization are are long before the pyramids. The the hypothetical theories of exactly what science can map and what they can see now is is the reality of so much was taken and so much was was hidden. Like even you look at you look at the produce, go into your fridge and and check which which fruits and vegetables, like tomatoes, potatoes, like there 70% of all vegetables were cultivated in the Americas. So what makes America great? The indigenous people. And our culture and and our attitude towards towards how we're not above you know the we're we're related to all living things. And yet and yet here's a European saying, no, we're we're we're we're not related to anybody. We're we are our own identity. We're individualistic. Which which is is led to all this. And I ⁓ the the reality, like I said, with women, and and this is why I'm I'm so critical on white women, is is because there there is a tipping point. Where where now all of a sudden you're you're you're being fragmented, your your your your what they call your fragile because for centuries, like the last five hundred years, you've been put up on a pedestal. You haven't had to be bred bred in plantations for your babies. You haven't had your babies pulled from you because you don't have sovereignty over your own children. Like in twenty twenty six, Bill S six three or six two in Parliament is trying to be passed to change the Indian Act so indigenous people have sovereignty over our children. So we can have group homes, group shelters, we can have our babies, our children staying in our communities, in First Nations, anyway, in Metis communities. rather than being shipped off into the city of Calgary, Edmonton, you or the province or another province. I mean, even in the fifties and sixties, they were sending indigenous children all over the world. You could buy a child for five bucks, an indigenous child. So you you tell me what privilege is and and how fragile white women are today, realizing like, my goodness, my children, my seven generations of children. Look at look at what happens. Like you're it's almost like you're being cornered. You're cornered, and that's why white supremacy is like, my goodness, we gotta stop this. We gotta stop this encroachment. Because the reality of it is like look at what you've done. All all for the sake of what? Whiteness or or like fragility? There there's a there's a tape, there there is a video that really strikes home because the reality of If if I can find this here. The reality of ⁓ some of these some of some of the psychology that that I think some people tend to forget. So what happens when a target of coercive control finally tells somebody? Well, the coercive controller has spent years camouflaged to appear credible to the very people that they approach for help. Some So again when I talk about a lot of this stuff with coercive control it it it has it has its moments in the in the sense that I think a lot of times Here's what the research actually shows you of ⁓ There's a lot of stuff that I wanted to put out there but I'll shut this off because ⁓ I I wanna read this aloud about patriarchy. Seven things I wish I wish more men knew about patriarchy and I wish I'd known sooner. One, patriarchy is a system of inequality where men hold more authority and power. The moment we hear the word, many of us feel defensive, which makes it hard to have an honest conversation. Patriarchy exists before any one of us was born and continues because generations inherited without questioning it. It didn't create it, it But I absolutely participated in it. So do you know? Once we understand this, we can stop defending ourselves and begin to examine the system and how it affects us all. This is from ⁓ TikTok Nathan.sol.au stn. ⁓ Number two, women have paid the highest price under patriarchy. In a culture that values men more than women, women lose. They lose safety, freedom, opportunity, their voices, and their power. We see this in the deport disproportionate rate of domestic abuse, sexual violence, coercive control, and forced marriage experienced by women and girls across the world since patriarchy gives men more power, dismantling much. be over must be our responsibility. So when I when I talk about limerence and I talk about coercive control and I talk about intergenerational trauma and I and I and I use the the the metaphor of white women because because it's it's the white women who who s who had these abusive men. ⁓ It's white women who started going to other women for therapy and they started forming groups like AA but it was called for limerence because even though the husbands had a addictions and they were abusive and you know killing them, they they realized as women they were the ones who were freely participating because they had bonded, they had a trauma bond to their white husbands. And so in in in establishing limerance support groups, they were able to ⁓ debrief create nar narrative in a safe space and and guided through guided imagery we're able to eliminate some of this self-defeating rhetoric that they've created in the in their biology. And and so I I use that as an example because like who who else is who else is going to be you know vocalizing and saying, look at me. You know, much of much of society looks at white women in terms of the beauty standards and and cosmetics and all this stuff. And and yet at the same time, they're women. And and that's why I think it's so fragile now. They're so such in a fragile state that that they d they don't even know that they're also practicing coercive control to women of color. Number three, and that's just my opinion. Number three. Probably the cleverest thing patriarchy ever did was convince us that masculinity is a default setting for humanity. It taught us that leadership, authority, and power are masculine and therefore worth of admiration. At the time, empathy, cooperation, vulnerability, and care were dismissed as feminine and therefore weak, so we cut ourselves off from half of who we are. again, you know, the reality too is like when you know, even in case studies, I I remember going into the library at Brigham Young University and there was a caged ⁓ locked up section and in that section they there were there were books that were were showing the anatomy of Native Americans who who were hermaphrodites, who, you know, had ⁓ again, the Sioux people had three gender types. A lot of this pseudo hermaphrodites and hermaphrodites the highest rate and concentration of hermaphrodites is in Israel, like in the Middle East. Because when women are bombarded every day of their life with terror and just extreme violence, it does something to to the oxytocin, you know, like or or it increases the dopamine, which is opposite of what women's health needs. And because of that, children are born prem like not premature in the sense of like not fully developed, but it's their their brain, the amygdala or what you know, just the whole nature of biology. So they're the first two weeks of every f male, a mammal is female. So understand the bombardment of the exterior environment having on women that are constantly in battle mode. And and so the babies are born and then and as they grow up they start, you know develop like either they're born with two sexes or they're they slowly develop ⁓ when they reach puberty. Like all that has been in theory of like is it environmental or is it nurture versus nature? But but that's a case study and it it's been studied stuff like this has been studied by by by people. Now, again, when we're talking about nurturing and the like I said, when when they looked at Native Americans and they saw that we had three gender types, they thought we were savages. But we but everyone had a role. Everyone th was there was a a a a ritual or ceremony. And I think a lot of humanity we've gone away from it. And sometimes I think for white women, my opinion, they've gone a bit too far. Because what do they do? They marry our indigenous men and then they start mansplaying to people like myself what what I should do as an indigenous woman and how I should carry on ceremony and ritual. Like when we talk about coercive control, I I kid you not. If if I could sit a white woman down and say, Look, this is what you're doing, do you do you know what you're doing? Because, you know, apparently it it's a form of escapism or or some something that they're projecting on the reality of exactly what they're facing. Because, you know, by the time you become a senior citizen and and you have nobody and you you're only you're forced to go into a nursing home and you're surrounded by by horny old white men who you know come creeping along the corridor. Or sit looking into your room, and you're totally disgusted because you're you're not interested. Yet, you know, during the pandemic, there was the highest ⁓ rate of sexually transmitted diseases. So so when I do talk about healthy human sexuality, I talk about it because it's important. It's a part of life. And for some unknown reason, young people think that when you get older it's done, you know, like some sort of magic wand. It doesn't exist. And I'm going, no, it does. It doesn't it's and it's basic. It starts from childhood and you carry it with you. It doesn't change. What changes is your ability to understand and how to process things, which is important for your mental health and and for everybody's concerned. So ⁓ again too, like I I've I've lost this page where where ⁓ I was talking about this ⁓ yeah, here we go. Was it number three? ⁓ Number four. This is exactly why boys grow up believing their worth depends on winning, achieving, controlling, and never appearing weak. This creates men who struggle to rest for help, struggle to cry or feel good enough unless they're proving themselves. So this system that hurts women also asks men to abandon parts of their own humanity in order to belong. And and that's the reality of it. Like even ⁓ to the amount of men that die sooner than women, you know, like I've warned my own brothers, like, take care of yourselves. But to to appear vulnerable, you know, in a society that that makes it look like they're weak. Number five, if equality feels like a loss, then it's because you're benefiting from someone else's lack of privilege. The system built on inequal inequal power always rewards one group with advantages that another group pays for. Men's authority and power have come at an expense of women's freedom, autonomy, and safety, and they continue to experience discrimination and violence. And and that's the whole point too when it comes to recipro reciprocity. is like when like somebody said, Well hurt people, hurt people. And I'd say, Explain. Well, you know, especially when you're grifted by white women and you're a woman of color and they c you know, because they've been hurting. But they they, you know, but doing that to like hurt people, hurt people. Like I'm tired of being hurt. ⁓ number six. We have to stop saying, well, I'm one of the good men and use it as reason to do nothing. This just keeps your attention on yourself. We have to be self-accountable to the ways we move through the world. Are we enforcing a system rooted in control or inequal unequal power? Or are we creating more relevance and equality for women around us? The world will change when enough men come care more about dismantling the blueprint instead of protecting their plain place within it. So so yes, the the ⁓ the narcissism, the Machiavellian, the coercive control, men cheating and and using that type of coercive control over their wives. And you know, I think ⁓ sometimes when women don't have community or women haven't had the the ability from childhood, teenage throughout their whole life. Not not just when it's time for them to have children and then, you know, go to ⁓ what school meetings and stuff with other women. I I'm talking about community from the time you're born until the time you die. And and I think white women in general don't have that. Whereas indigenous women, and I'm only saying this in my opinion because I'm I live in Western Canada. and I've grown up seeing it and I I've seen it in my community when this group of young women have come together to support each other against Nathan Chasing horse. These things a lot of women a lot of white women who live in urban areas don't have from childhood, teenage, ⁓ young adult, middle life, all the way. And then all of a sudden when you become a pensioner and you're forced to go into a nursing home, you're you're like you're fighting to breathe. You're fighting f to have some sort of autonomy and and you're afraid. Like like that the one lady she d she the face that she she like her face just wrinkled all up when she was talking about the these men in the nursing homes like like it like how disgusting it was for her to to be around them. Like and again that's because these men have grown up with this patriarchy. Okay, seven. So where do men begin? I'd say it begins in your own home and in your own relationships. Take an honest look at the ways you might still be playing your part in it. Do the control Do you control your partner's sexuality? ⁓ accept expect her to carry the emotional labor? Are you defensive when she gives you feedback? Do you dismiss her intuition or assume your opinion carries more weight? How do you speak about women when they are not in the room? What jokes do you laugh at? Do you challenge your mate? your mates when they objectify and disrespect women, how do you treat your mom, your sisters, your colleague, and the women you meet in public? And and that is my point. I like when I talk to my my relatives and I hear what their sons say to them, or I hear like that they're still enabling their sons And and I say to them, No, my my nephews, my nieces, like they they don't come around. I said, 'cause they know better. They know better than to come around if they're drinking or drugging. They know that. I said, I d I just don't tolerate it. And and so That is the whole point when I realize like the older a woman gets and the more she enables the men in her life to have coercive control over her, even though she's the the single breadwinner. It it it just amazes me to know in that these things still happen and but it's the reality and and how how do you deal with it? How do you how does anybody deal with it? So Again, part of my podcast is is to deconstruct and talk about talk about things that have meant something to me, things that ⁓ I I wish I had known, but again I I spent most of my career profiling dangerous and violent and controlling men. The first five years of my career at New Scotland Yard were running the sexual offences section, where I had the remit of Pan London to make the links across stranger abduction, rape and murder cases and to help identify the perpetrator. So I'm talking about serial rapists and serial killers, and often when we detected them and arrested them, they had domestic violence in their history, and that always intrigued me. And I wanted to look at a bigger pool of offenders. So I profiled domestic violence, sexual and serious offenders, 452 of them. And I found that one in twelve of them rate inside the home, they're significant women in their lives, and outside the home, making the links that these dangerous men offend against significant women and those women that they don't know. That's such an important link. So that it's the misnomer to talk about the stranger rapist or serial killer. And often at that time the offender profile was the off-the-shelf offender profile was that he was age 30 to 40, lived alone or with his mother, he had six inch thick bottle lensed glasses, couldn't interact with women. I blew that profile up because these men did get married and the women reported them. For violence and controlling behaviour, coercive controlling behaviour, some of the worst things that I've seen, and often the women were being ignored. So we have to make those links. And I wrote up a report called Getting Away with It. Forty offenders are in the back of this report to show you that it was routine. And getting away with it, only two of them had prison sentences. Only two of them out of 452. Many of them were psychopaths, and we know. The this is the cohort of offenders where we would find psychopaths. Dr. Robert Hare's work from 1993, 25% of domestic violence offenders are psychopaths. The number is far greater, in my opinion, from all the work that I've done. And I've put all of this learning into a risk assessment model called the DASH. The domestic abuse, stalking harassment, and so called honor based violence risk model. It's a long mouthful, which is why we say the DASH. And I run university accredited training. For everybody now to attend. So if you're a professional working with victims, you absolutely must come on the course. But it's open to everyone because I want to mainstream the learning. Psychopaths are amongst us. They look the same, they're charming, very charming individuals, but they're also very controlling. And I want you to spot those signs. They're coercively controlling. So come on the University Accredited Dash Training. My next class is March the 11th and 12th. Okay, so again she's promoting herself but the reality of it is is is basic. So if we have white women who are around and have published stuff about white men, then what does it say about other men? And what does it say about like when I lived in Utah as a as a woman of color, I had white roommates and and And we'd have break ins. And rather than targeting my my other roommates, they would only move my belongings around. I I had been stalked for a year when I was just going to do my job because I was a a minority. So so you take it for what it is. Why is it that there are so many murdered and missing indigenous women? Because there are white men who are doing horrible things to their white women. within their own homes. So when I talk about my own my own stuff and ⁓ and and I start you know saying things about ⁓ domestic violence and and you know the need to to ⁓ have some sort of dialogue trusting people maneuvering and getting help through intergenerational trauma, it's because it's it's double. It's double the fold. So you you only have the perspective of white women, but you don't have the the the like like somebody had said something about somebody making a complaint and they said for every complaint there are seven more that did not complain. Okay, so imagine that If you have white women complaining, imagine the seven more that that indigenous women and women of color have have you know said, Hey, this has happened to me and nobody has paid attention. Because because there are men out there who are in positions of authority and patriarchy who are in enabling this, who are are so enmeshed in in this coercive control. And training might and you know that's why even though even though people and women might think, no, it's it's over there. It's not happening it's not happening here. And ⁓ I mean there are other there are other ⁓ parts of what is the malicious syndrome? There there are other like podcasts that I that have have talked about stuff and there was there was one about coercive control and I don't know if if I've got it here. ⁓ I'm just trying to find it. is it? Because a tactile after the revolution I don't know my I don't I hope that we Are you still sorry about that. Otto it is a f this is up our father and Sidland. No, can't find it. But it has to do with coercive control. And the reason I'm saying this is like like I said, hurt people, hurt people. And ⁓ there was a book on ⁓ by women of color talking about not trusting white women. And and that's the scary part of it. And I think it's the scary part for white women to sort of settle in and digest it because because that that in itself like I I had an acquaintance she's an acquaintance now because she's ghosted me, ⁓ at sixty-five, decided to go back after being in the ⁓ art community, decide to go back and get her master's so she could be a therapist at sixty five. ⁓ the reality of it is like ⁓ and not just her, there I know another indigenous woman, sixty five too, is going back to become a counselor. And and that's their, you know, if they're empowering themselves, fine. But the reality of it is that ⁓ coercive control When when you're doing it at a because it's such a easy thing to slip into and and you're you're you're you don't even realize that you're projecting it onto to me, like a a a woman of like a minority who, you know, my whole life I've I've protected myself and I tried continuously to protect myself over people who want to control me. Coercive control. ⁓ Like I there was one when I was talking to my niece, I said to her, you know, a studies prove that if you work on something for and put in ten thousand hours you become a master at it. So so that's why when I talk about coercive control and my protecting myself and keeping myself in a safe place, like my energy, that's fifty years. Fifty years of of of doing this and having people ⁓ try to labeled me or to put me in a you know put put me in a place where they feel comfortable. And and I'm going, no, I'm I'm telling the truth here. I I'm I'm I'm maneuvering through my life trying to understand why people treat me the way they treat me. And and for me the aha moment or the epiphany was that, you know, I think like hurt people hurt people. And and again it when I try to talk about matriarchy to white women They say, I've read it, or I'm, you know, I'm really sorry that ⁓ my people did this to your people. Like analogies like that, and I'm going, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. You have to be born into matriarchy. So when I talk about my community and Western Canada and indigenous people, especially in Alberta, like I wish the hell w people would understand matriarchy. and and and what it is that indigenous people in western Canada have. That that the whole world has been fighting for what couple of thousand years in in overseas with the Romans and the Spartans and all that. And here we are in Western Canada holding on for dear life to the very essence of matriarchy and saying, look, this is who we are as women. And this is what women of the world are trying to do. And there are very isolated places around the world that are in the same situation as Alberta. But the point of it is like you've got to wake up. This whole patriarchy and and how destructive and coercive it is in just pr promoting and creating a delusion for our children. Like the fellow said, you know, look at all that's being done. just just to the propaganda against women. Like when I took a j gender studies course and the the the English words slut, whore, prost like bugger, like there there's only four word like for certain words that describe men, like bugger. Bitch, slut, you name it, there are more derogatory terms for females. And and so like what is the reality of it? W what what is happening? I I really think I really think creator, grandmothers and grandfathers, for what if people don't want to believe and they don't think these things have meaning. I I look at the historical aspect of what I know and I know what a lot of other indigenous people know, and I know their creator and the grandfathers and grandmothers will is being done. If we cannot just accept it When I have people that have come into my life, very intimate people, that I've had to release, and it's not my doing. It's creator and the grandfathers and grandmothers guiding all this. I accept it. I let it go. And I'm grateful for what I've learned. But the reality of it is like I think people who have been in positions of power in patriarchy, both male and female. really need to look at themselves and and think, am I am I ⁓ am I ⁓ exhibiting coercive control? Am I doing this to someone who I don't understand their culture, their values and beliefs? Am I doing this? Things that you've got to think about, and I hope that sort of digests into your system today because, you know, it's a very important thing. Because a Coercive control when you see it and you wonder, you know, why do men ⁓ why do women put up with men who cheat on them? Why why you know, w what's happening here? Coercive control and again, what is the what is the result of enabling for decades like staying in a relationship like that? Or or for that matter, if you're the woman who's having an affair, why why are you being Why are you participating in this coercive control? All these things, even though you think it does not affect anybody else but you, you're wrong. The ripple effect reaches down to the very innocent, the very vulnerable. Have a good day and ⁓ we'll talk to you later.
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