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Thursday, 20 August 2026

The complexities and accountability and justice

Marina, I read your entire document closely. It’s rich, layered, and deeply personal — and it deserves a summary that honors its complexity without flattening it. Below is a structured, clear, and comprehensive summary of your podcast transcript, grounded directly in the text you provided. I’ve included brief quoted lines from the document, as required. ⭐ Concise Takeaway Your podcast explores human sexuality, limerence, hypersexuality, Indigenous community dynamics, misogyny, restorative justice, and aging, all woven through your personal experiences and the broader social context of Indigenous life. You use these themes to explain how predators like Nathan Chasing Horse operated, why communities struggle to recognize red flags, and why open conversations about sexuality and accountability are essential. ๐Ÿ“˜ Full Summary of the Document ๐Ÿ”น 1. Opening Context You begin by situating the podcast on August 20th, noting the smoky weather and your plan to discuss human sexuality, ending with two Indigenous young men speaking about men’s groups. You frame the central question: “Why did Nathan Chasing horse get away with being such a predator in our communities?” You emphasize this is not just an Indigenous issue but a human issue, tied to how communities understand (or fail to understand) one another. ๐Ÿ”น 2. Limerence as a Red Flag You introduce psychiatrist Dr. Ahmed Hankir, quoting his explanation of limerence: “You idealize them… Their attention feels euphoric. Their withdrawal feels devastating.” You argue that limerence should be treated as a danger signal, especially in communities where people may ignore red flags due to trauma, attachment insecurity, or cultural silence. You describe your own past experiences with limerence and how other Indigenous women denied having similar feelings, making it harder to talk openly about vulnerability. ๐Ÿ”น 3. Hypersexuality and Mental Health You quote Dr. Hankir again on hypersexuality: “Hypersexuality isn’t simply having a high sex drive… urges or behaviors that become difficult to control.” You connect this to: bipolar disorder ADHD personality disorders trauma substance use You share personal stories of people you knew who experienced hypersexuality, including a white woman who hitchhiked as a child and suffered fragmented memories. You clarify your own path: despite early promiscuity, you have not been sexually active for 50 years, and you emphasize the importance of boundaries, therapy, and self-reflection. ๐Ÿ”น 4. Misogyny, Projection, and Cultural Stigma You describe how misogynists treat women, how women normalize disrespect, and how your community projected stigma onto you for not marrying or having children. You recount how Nathan Chasing Horse created narratives about you without your knowledge, and how speaking with his followers in Las Vegas validated your experiences. ๐Ÿ”น 5. Sexuality, Aging, and Women’s Health You highlight the importance of talking openly about women’s bodies, especially: menopause UTIs vaginal estrogen pelvic floor issues masturbation libido in older age You quote a women’s health expert: “Post menopause women have the highest rates of UTIs… nowhere in the clinical pathway did they mention topical vaginal estrogen.” You argue that Indigenous women often avoid these topics, even though they’ve had children and need this information. ๐Ÿ”น 6. Menstrual Cycles, Energy, and Ceremony You describe how emotional intensity can trigger menstruation: “Just the grief of losing her dad, she started her period.” You explain Sundance protocols around menstruation and recount a powerful experience where male energy in ceremony triggered a sexual dream: “My body moving as if I was having intercourse… it was the intensity of the drumming and the singing.” You frame this as biological, not mystical — a holistic interaction of energy, nervous system, and sexuality. ๐Ÿ”น 7. Indigenous Sexuality, Power, and Historical Context You reference scholar Seea Anand, who explains how ancient Indian kings were depicted pleasuring women as a symbol of fertility and governance. You use this to discuss: matriarchy women’s pleasure cultural differences in sexual ethics your own comfort with your sexual identity You also mention the Sanskrit blessing: “Talatwam katastya priya bhavathu — may you always be your lover’s sweetheart.” ๐Ÿ”น 8. Restorative Justice and Indigenous Men’s Accountability You include a conversation from the All My Relations Podcast, where two Indigenous men discuss: patriarchy accountability cheating community standards restorative justice banishment One says: “If we banish every creepy guy… there’s like five dudes left.” You connect this to your own community’s struggles with: sexual assault leadership misconduct historical trauma political corruption You discuss your brother’s involvement with Nathan Chasing Horse and the need for accountability without erasing kinship. You also describe the serial rapist who assaulted you and how community shunning became a form of restorative justice. ๐Ÿ”น 9. Colonization, Slavery, and Genetic History You draw parallels between: Black American history breeding farms colorism European exploitation Mรฉtis identity the Indian Act You argue that Indigenous contributions — agriculture, pyramids, knowledge systems — have been systematically suppressed. ๐Ÿ”น 10. Closing Themes You end by emphasizing: the need for honest conversations the importance of sexual health the dangers of silence the role of community judgment your commitment to speaking openly despite loneliness And you close with: “It’s important to talk about these things.”
Marina Crane (00:01.474) Good morning. It's august twentieth and weather report, still can't see the Rockies, it's smoky. It's supposed to rain today too, but I believe it when I see it. I'm hoping to do this podcast on human sexuality and at the end I'll have two indigenous young men talk about a men's group. I I think it's important. most of my topics have been on lately about separatism, politics, st stereotypes, pretendience. well today most of most of my curiosity has been around like human behavior and sexuality because the whole nature of the the question, the big question, the million dollar question, is why did Nathan Chasing horse get away with being such a predator in our communities? Now I I want non-Indigenous people to take a look at it this way, is like it's not just an indigenous problem. This is a human humanity problem. And so part of the reason why I I do my podcast is to not only educate Indigenous people, but also to have non Indigenous people understand the gravity Even though it's an i it seems like isolated or something profound, it exists in your very communities, but because you do not have a collective and holistic approach or know your community members the way First Nations anyway in Metis communities know them, that you can project all this onto like the neighbor is the one that has the problem type of attitude. Marina Crane (01:59.852) when really you have to have some self reflection because you don't know your neighbor or you don't know them until like they've moved in maybe ten, twenty years or rarely do you ever you grow up with somebody in your community from the time you're a babies right until the time you're old age. That's why I do my podcast. So I'm going to I have a couple of videos and the two Like there's a psychologist, a psychiatrist. He his name is Doctor D R A H E D H A N K I R. And he's talking about he says the dangerous the dangerous vulnerability women need to recognize around limerants. He says, you think you're falling in love, but what is really actually happening? Actually, you're falling into limerence and it's making you ignore the very red flags that could protect you. See, even though I talk about limerence, people just think it's like a magical word. Marina and her limerence. And I'm going, no. It's a red flag. You know, when I say the word limerence, it should have a red flag saying danger, danger, date stranger danger. Like really, when Nathan Chasing Horse came into the community, I did I didn't know the name was Limerence. And I think that's why I focus on it so much in my podcast. So this doctor Says limerance can create an extraordinary, powerful pull, idealization, obsessive preoccupation, an intense sensitivity to another person's attention or withdrawal. It can affect everyone. But recognizing your own vulnerability, and this is the point, like what is so damn bad about recognizing your own vulnerability to talk to someone you trust, male or female, about that vulnerability? Marina Crane (04:10.956) Now the majority of times, like that's why I said at the end of the podcast, I'm gonna have two young men talk from their own social media platform. The the reasoning for for all this, like it come it's everybody, not just women, particularly in relationships where there is inconsistency, manipulation, and intermittent validation can be an important part of emotional and relational safety. So even when I talk t about youth and how to protect youth we need to have an environment of safety. And the majority of times like when youth are in school, they have counselors. So so it is a an environment of safety, supposedly. Now, sometimes it it's more dangerous for a child to be at home with their their own family. And and so that's why when I talk about trafficking, sometimes we don't even know the attitudes that we bring in that are colonially mindset. even too like like I I always use the premise, don't trust nobody with your child. I'm and I'm not saying it because I'm indigenous, I'm saying it in terms of human human beings. Now the doctor says insight matters. V vigilance matters too. Recognizing the patterns before the pull becomes an overwhelming. And this is why I truly believe that when women all women when they married people men who when they married in trauma bonds and the men were a alcoholic or some sort of had some addiction Marina Crane (05:58.636) that that the woman suffering as she has children and then at the same time like such an organization as El Anon was created so that women would have a safe place to talk about their marital problems within a system where other women were experienced the same the same experience. But in that whole history of it is that is that women had this epiphany that, hey, we're this is trauma bond w you know, why do we have this emotion here? And they called it limerants and they started having they started having support groups for for limerants. So One of the and again, I'm trying to I'll try to get it as sweet and as s sweet and to the point because I don't want it to go on like l being boring. the the notion of infatuation is a normal behavior when you're young and you're all you have this butterfly feelings and all this stuff. But but it's one thing that you have so many people who've experienced something and and want to say this is common sense My whole podcast isn't isn't to claim that it's common sense. You have to see it as a red flag in terms of, you know, grasping a hold of yourself and going, I gotta self reflect. Why do I think this way? And is this and again we do more damage by self diagnosing ourselves. That's why I said shop around for a therapist or someone who can guide you through this this path. Again, the fellow is doctor H Marina Crane (07:43.506) A H E D H A N K I and here he is. Limitance, the dangerous vulnerability women need to recognize. Let's talk about limitance because recognizing it may protect you. Hi, I'm Professor Ahmed Hankir. I'm a consultant psychiatrist, and part of my clinical work involves assessing personality structure and functioning, diagnosing personality disorders where appropriate, and identifying attachment and relational patterns that can make someone vulnerable. To experiences like limitance. Limitance isn't simply love, it's an intense, obsessive, infatuation where another person can become emotionally central to your sense of worth, safety, and meaning. You don't just like them, you idealize them, you put them on a pedestal and gradually give them enormous power over your emotional state. Their attention feels euphoric. Their withdrawal feels devastating and this is where it can become dangerous. You may ignore red flags or tolerate neglect, inconsistency, manipulation and abuse because losing that connection feels unbearable. Limitance can affect anyone but in my clinical work I've seen how profoundly these patterns can affect women and why regular Recognizing them can become a matter of emotional and relational safety. Limitance can sometimes be associated with attachment insecurity and earlier experiences of not feeling sufficiently seen, chosen, or emotionally secure. So when someone gives you intense attention or even intermittent breadcrumbs of it, the pull can be extraordinarily powerful. Then one day. Marina Crane (09:51.364) You look back and think, why did I tolerate that? Why did I abandon myself? This is why insight alone may not be enough. You also need vigilance. If you know you have a vulnerability to limitance, be vigilant when someone produces that intoxicating combination of novelty, intensity, uncertain, and intermittent validation. Recognize the pattern before. Before the pull becomes overwhelming. Awareness doesn't mean shutting down your heart, it means protecting yourself while keeping it open. I hope you found that helpful. As always, protect your So this is why for me I'd already experienced liberance before I met Nathan Chasey horse. I already knew the red flags. The problem though is like safety in who I was talking to. especially other indigenous women who were in denial that they've ever had such feelings such in doc like s such feelings. So when you have a group of people who are in denial of what what can I say? There is a reason why the why there's such a thing as AA or Al Anon or any any support group because you know, when you stand up and say, My name is so and so and I am you're you're you're basically using the narrative to validate like self talk because you've had so much self talk denying those red flags. And a lot of people have used you know t catchphrases like healing healing the inner child and you like it's it's it really people have made a lot of money off of stuff like so I there's another section of this fellow here. That one? No. there are a coup a couple of other things that I had seen here. Let's see if this is the one. I'm sorry I keep on doing this. I should've Marina Crane (12:00.962) Hypersexuality and mental health. Hello, I'm Professor Rahmat Hankir. I'm a consultant psychiatrist, and today I want to talk about a topic that isn't discussed nearly enough. Hypersexuality. It's a taboo subject, but we need to talk about it. Because for some people, it can have profound consequences. Hypersexuality isn't simply having a high sex drive, it refers to sexual thought. Urges or behaviors that become difficult to control and begin causing distress, risk, or significant problems in someone's life. One of the best recognized causes is bipolar disorder. Euromanic or hypomanic episodes, changes in brain function, can lead to increased reward seeking, reduced inhibition, impulsivity, and overconfidence. For some people, this can result in a sudden surge in sexual desire. And risky sexual behavior. This might include multiple sexual partners, sex with strangers, compulsive pornography use, compulsive masturbation, spending excessive amounts of money on sexual services, or crossing personal or relationship boundaries. Hypersexuality can also occur in some people with ADHD, certain personality disorders, substance use disorders, and some neurological conditions. Hypersexuality can affect anyone. However, in a disinhibited state, some individuals may become more vulnerable to coercion, exploitation, trauma, or sexual assault. When the episode or period of dysregulation passes, many people are left carrying immense shame, embarrassment, guilt or confusion. Relationships can break down, careers can be damaged. There may also be risks such as sexually transmitted infections, unplanned pregnancies, financial difficulties, or legal consequences. Important to say this clearly. Understanding the role of mental illness does not excuse harmful behaviour or remove personal responsibility, but it does help us understand why these experiences occur and how we can support recovery without shame or stigma. Treatment depends on the underlying cause. For bipolar disorder, moose stabilizers can be highly effective. Psychological therapies can also help people develop insight, improve impulse control, and reduce risk. If you recognize yourself or someone you love and what I've described, Marina Crane (14:30.896) Please don't suffer in silence. Honest conversations with the mental health professional can be life-changing. Hypersexuality can sometimes be a symptom of an underlying mental health condition rather than a reflection of someone's values or character. Let's replace shame with understanding, stigma with compassion, and silence with honest conversation. I hope you find that helpful. As always. Again, this is why it's important. Like I'm glad I found this fellow on social media because when I talk about my life in terms of promiscuity and understand this, when I'm focusing on youth, it's because I was a teenager or the reality of like some like I had a a white woman who was quite hypersexual as a child. I mean she would like she told me stories of how she hitchhike and she said, I remember being in the cab of a truck driver and he was driving down into a valley. She says, I don't remember how I came out. So a lot of fragmented fragmentations of of memory or anything is important. I for for me, when I say I haven't been sexually active in fifty years A lot of the lateral violence or the the cruelty of of making choices in my life had nothing to do with like like being bipolar or having like s there there were there were some other things that that I had I was dealing with, but I had the common sense or this tenacity because I like I said, I had I've never had a partner and I've had to work and I've had to pay my bills on my own. So I had to be vigilant on my own mental health and my capacity. So Marina Crane (16:25.844) That's why I I did a lot of sought out a lot of support for for things and how I felt. And and the struggle was real because I wasn't trying to be codependent with someone. I wanted to make sure I had effective boundaries, like that the people that I was sharing my thoughts were had boundaries. And those were professionals, like this fellow is saying, you know, find some guided some some someone so that the relapse isn't filled with shame and guilt and and like how you recover. Like I always use the analogy of of the potholes and driving around the potholes and you know the the hypersexuality and the limerence are those potholes. And and as you navigate through them. And this is why when I talk about navigation I'm I'm talking about like my life of not being sexually active na that's navigating. The reality is like like even sharing fantasies or sexual experiences with other people because they themselves still have some issues with with talking about healthy human sexuality, again they projected onto me. And again, in terms of mental health, in terms of bullying, what do you call tr gaslighting? all trying to minimize my life because the person is who's projecting this has hasn't sought therapy. A lot of times when I did talk about Nathan Chasing Horse and just the stigma like something's the matter with Marina The whole cultural part too of like she's not married, she doesn't have children, something's the matter with her. Or like it was so easy for Nathan Chasing Horse to target me the this way that I was chasing him, that I had been obsessive senting sending him emails. again, I didn't even know he had created all this nuance around me. I have sort of sensed it that Marina Crane (18:35.218) but when I actually went to the Las Vegas and I talked to his followers and had the validation because they all knew who I was, which is very powerful in itself and and and to me it it brings a lot of relief because in my community i it's it's different because they they're the comfortable in their own skin. So so that's why like he says hyper sexuality is a taboo subject. And and for me and with my podcast I'm trying to say, no, it's not a taboo. You know, you you have to talk about it. Some sometimes when I like I meet people who are misogynists and and I can feel it like the way the way they treat me. and that's fine, but the reality of it is a lot of peop a lot of women again and I say this women, when men treat a woman with disrespect, sometimes it just feels normal to her and she just takes it. Without any, you know, like, I don't wanna disturb you know, I don't want to get this person angry, like fawning. A lot of the stuff that even even in terms of fantasy or talking with a man that you're sexually attracted to is is not a curse word. And it's and again it's not a taboo. We are human beings. And so a lot of times too, when as women age, our bodies change. And so it's important for women, especially like women who've had children and they have experience with incontinence. There's there's a lot of things that I've talked to women that I didn't realize because I I have never had children. So so all all the more reason why for me talking about estrogen therapies and the reasoning for it too, because our bodies are meant to be sexual. Marina Crane (20:37.638) And the longevity of human beings means that you need to be sexual right until the last breath you take. Right until the you know, y before like when you're six feet underground, you're not gonna do it anymore. But we're such sexual beings that our whole physiology depends is geared to to all that stuff. Estrogen, testosterone, oxytocin, dopamine, all that. It needs to it's like a plant. You need to fertilize it and you know, when you when you shut down and you don't participate or you become rigid and and all these things that they talk about intergenerational trauma and all the diseases that come with it. I mean a lot of people do due diligence and they do try to take care of themselves but a lot of times for for me when I do a critique and and they don't like what I'm saying, they'll they'll ghost me. So yes, my life can be pretty lonely, but welcome to the club. Right? So here you'll notice that in paintings that depict royal power, generally in the West kings would have themselves painted in very upright positions, you know, wearing armor, holding weapons, conquering lands. Whereas in the East often they would have themselves depicted as lovers, actually in positions of pleasure or intimacy. Sometimes it would be just the one woman, maybe a favourite mistress, but more often they'd be shown pleasuring five or maybe even six women at the same time. But the answer is firmly on pleasuring the women, not controlling them. So was this because different cultures imagined power differently? See in places like ancient India, kingship was not just about conquering. Marina Crane (22:18.38) It was also king's job to ensure the fertility, the prosperity, the abundance of the land. And so a kingdom where the rains fell on time or the crops were abundant, or even where lots of children were born, was seen as a reflection of his ruler. Virility was political language. A king who was able to pleasure women, multiple women, was actually a statement on his ability to sustain the kingdom. And so the lack of it meaning a king who wasn't virile, or someone who indulged in sexual excesses and sexual assault, because the rules were very strict that a man in power Had to have sexual ethics and be able to control his appetites. But yeah, a man who either wasn't viral enough or was sexually unethical was seen as a bad omen for the kingdom and could be denied the throne. Never underestimate the power of a woman's pleasure. Kingdoms have been lost over it. And that historically you'll notice And that is from a lady, her name is S E E A, last name A-N-A-N-D. And Like it's really interesting because sh you know, when I talk about matriarchy and and the power of women and like just our how powerful our bodies are, because when when women sort of say, Well, Marina, aren't you worried that people aren't gonna believe that you haven't been sexually active all these years? I'm going, No This is my truth, this is what I feel comfortable in, this is who I am, and this is how I evolved. And when people say, Well, what is your mission in life? Well, my mission in life started fifty years ago. And most of the time too, when I talk when I talk to my niece, she was she's a artist and she does some graphic design. I said, Anything that any human being takes up, you have to put at least in 10,000 hours to master it. So so in that sense, like when you say, Well, what is my mission just reflect self reflect and see how many hours you put into into something that in yourself is our mission just is is your mission now well I think this Marina Crane (24:20.258) Talatwam katastya priya bhavathu, which means may you always be your lover's sweetheart. Or in other words, we wish you, we bless you with a lifetime of reciprocated love. I mean, how gorgeous is that. You know, traditionally in India, as a woman, the blessing would be, may your husband have a long life, meaning, may you have the good fortune of always being a married woman, which is of course also a beautiful blessing. But in the ancient Sanskrit plays, which were primarily romances, this was the More popular blessing that may you always be adored by the person that you love. And you have to agree that is probably the most beautiful thing that you can wish for anyone. Now of course there are many versions of this particular blessing, but I've chosen to go with this one because this version is gender neutral, meaning that no matter what gender you or your partner are, this can apply to you. Plus, this can be for you now or it can be for you sometime in the future. And so repeat after me. Sada. Sadam. Plum. Plum. Kantasya Kantasya Priya Priya Bhavatu Bhavatu Sadatwan Kantasya Priya Bhavatu Which means like just the understanding of that. Like it's so powerful. And and you know, like I like I said, the when a woman chooses to have children and and that the child's life takes up her identity for five years, the first five years of that baby's life. Now imagine if you if you like I I knew one lady who had twenty babies. Like imagine like just her whole identity. And then then when she stops having children. Like sh the the notion of pleasure and and understanding the nature of men and women, but for women to be assertive in in in understanding their own bodies, their own body parts. It's like like even like I said, in terms of estrogen therapies and and stuff. like it's important it's important for Marina Crane (26:32.152) people to like especially women for sexuality and mental health. Does it include No, I'm sorry I that like I said, there's this other lady she's talking about Again, sexuality. Post menopause women have the highest rates of UTIs. Over a hundred thousand women are admitted into AE with UTIs and chronic UTIs. And nowhere in the clinical pathway did they mention topical vaginal estrogen. Because fundamentally we still do have, I believe, this misogynistic view that this is how because it's men's medicine is part of the process. We have lied to women over two things, and it actually you say I don't get angry, but these are the two things I get angry about. One is is that we've lied to women about their pelvic flaws. And said to them, just do pelvic floor exercises. And if you leak after having a baby or you have an oops moment, don't worry, it's okay, here's a pad, and you can treat yourself. Actually, no, there are two times in our lives when we reduce estrogen. One is when we've had a baby, and that's when we are that lactating, so we are breastfeeding our baby, and our pelvic floor is for love no money, you can do as much pelvic floor exercises, and I'm not discounting pelvic floor exercises. I you know, I do them and I and I encourage people to keep doing it. That's only 50% of the argument. Estrogen is the other bit that you need to give women. So if you get a woman in your surgery who says, I'm breastfeeding and I'm totally getting irritation and soreness and I'm getting an itch, please don't treat her for thrush. Because that's the other mistake that we make. You need to give a topical vaginal estrogen and it's known as genitor utero syndrome of lactation. So there's a lot of doctors who are sort of talking about this, but still very quietly in the women's health sphere. Marina Crane (28:21.962) And it works wonders. So now my midwife colleagues, I'm teaching them in their NCT classes, going, please talk about vaginal estrogen. The safety data is phenomenally good. So it it's so local, so it's localized, it doesn't get taken up in the bloodstream, therefore doesn't increase your risk of breast cancer and does not increase your risk of clots. Does that also mean that a woman Say in her 60s, late 60s, 70s, could she start taking vaginal estrogen? Because I know it's maybe not so good for somebody to take HRT more than 10 years after you've had your last period. Systemic HRT, so something that goes throughout your whole body, there are there are conversations and guidelines, but I never say no. I always talk to individual women on that. Topical vaginal estrogen, lifelong. At any point you could start. So I've started women in their eighties and it's been a game changer for them. Post menopause women have the highest rates of UTIs. Over a hundred See, this is important for women, especially aging, 'cause when I talk to indigenous women and and I'm I'm talking to them about this estrogen, vine v vaginal estrogen, they're just like they want to change the subject. And and yet you know, they've had children. So so the whole reality of like what is it that your body goes through and this lady is talking about it. And and even too in terms of masturbation, like for women, even the sex toys, the whole process of of stimulation is is important. It's important right until like I said, you you take your last breath. And A lot of times like when I talk to women about menstrual periods throughout my life and and this is what I try t to get across to people, not just women, but well I I don't talk to men about p menstrual periods. but when I talk to women and I said, you know, because again I've never had children and I've never been with a partner. Marina Crane (30:37.75) When I've had my monthly period, it it just comes monthly. But I noticed as the years went by that when I was sexually aroused by a certain man, or I ha I was infatuated, or like I said, I've gone through this whole limerence or infatuation, limerence, or hypersexuality in my early twenties, like my late teens, early twenties. So a lot of what I'm what I talk about in terms of my emotions of loneliness, isolation, sadness. madness. Mm I don't you know, it's just like at some point, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm there working and I'm interacting with with people. And then I have my period and I'm and when I talked to women I said, don't you like it's one thing, like I had roommates, I've had roommates and even in in high school, like or when I was in residential school and we're we were living in dorms, like all the women would their s their menstrual periods would fall in sync. Because again, we're talking to each other, we're living with each other, talking different topics, sexual arousal. But the nitty-gritty of it when it comes to partners, and this is what this is what I'm trying trying to say to women, no matter how old you are, y you your libido doesn't shut down. You will still find somebody attractive and you'll still feel aroused and and for lack of better word, horny. Now, as you get older and and again people stop having their period going through menopause and all this, but the real the and again, I don't think women totally understand it if they're have been in relationships and you know, like they're not really in tune with their bodies because like for me, I the only relationship I have is with myself. So so yes, when when I would think about somebody that I'm Marina Crane (32:37.008) attracted to and it's intense, I will start my period. when my late uncle passed away at the age of thirty five, his oldest daughter was like I think about thirteen. Just the intensity of the like the energy, the what they call the the energy, the nervous central nervous system, like I said when w h our thoughts and how our central nervous system is attached to our very existence, just just the grief of losing her dad, she started her period. And and there's more to it too. Like like I try to talk about ceremony too. Like in in the sundance, women who are in their period aren't allowed to come within the circle. And like you have to be away from your period a few days as well. And and this is a cautionary tale, because I'm talking about the intensity of the energy, the male energy that's involved in that sun dance. And so so that's why I'm talking about when it comes to interacting with men and you're attracted to them. Them. It will trigger this part of your body as a woman to start your periods. So I'm at a sun dance. I'd finished my menstrual period. I woke up. I was sharing a airbed with another woman and and I woke up my body moving as if I was having intercourse and it woke her up and woke me up and I thought, what what happened? Marina Crane (34:21.824) And I 'cause I had this this wet dream. And and it was because I I shouldn't have been within that circle. It was the intensity of the drumming and the singing and just the that whole male energy just how do how do I put it, disp dispersing with like a lightning storm. You know, you see l a flash of lightning and you hear the sound. Well, that's what I'm talking about in terms of collective and holistic approaches to healing. And and only if you've been in such like positions. And I know a hell of a lot of Europeans and wannabes and pretendians try to artificially have this. It you can't. It has to there there's there's a collective holistic approach to this. And sometimes people just sort of glorify the person who's who's in charge because they think they're all magical and mystical when it's all biological. So that's part of the reasons too why I talk about about healthy human sexuality and you know the whole nature of women looking after themselves and that it's not a shameful thing to ask the doctor to is t prescribe you vaginal estrogen. It will increase it'll like again, UTIs. I didn't realize, like again, women who've had children have your incontinence a lot earlier. And and so as you get older you develop UTIs and you go on antibiotics. The reality of like what happens that when you use so much antibiotics after six months, like a forms of depression. like I try to stay away from antibiotics. I even try to stay. Marina Crane (36:10.7) Away from sedation or like even when I need operation, I'd sooner be awake and have a local anesthetic because of the chemicals that stay within the brain like s for six months. And and again, as we're aging, we need to be more visual or cognizant of the things that happen to us as we age, like dementia and Alzheimer's. And and so again, a lot of the things that I talk about is because I'm I'm aging. Yes, I have fears of dementia and Alzheimer's and I have to be d diligent. So for me going on estrogen s vaginal estrogen, as my doctor said, are you planning to be sexually active? I said, No, I want I'm I'm doing this for longevity. I I wanna live a little longer, okay? because the the stark reality that when women are elderly or even younger and they have UTIs, sometimes those sometimes even if your your body gets so used to antibiotics you those UTIs can become sepsis, septic sepsis. And you can you can die from it. You can die from sepsis. So so that's why it's important for me to have this podcast. It's it's not it's not a taboo. It's not something to be ashamed of. S human sexuality is like like this lady said from in India. May you have pleasure. Like the like even even the reality of of like again, even men in position of power, Europeans, they sat upright in the throne whereas b you know, in other cultures they're lying down in sexual positions because again they know that you know, the importance of women. So and and I I know a lot of people want to romanticize Native American and Marina Crane (38:08.716) you know, like the whole like the flavor of the month. That's why when I when I talk about slavery and I talk about racism and I talk about systemic racism and I talk about like the Inuit Metis and First Nations, the whole history of of dominance and colonia colonizers trying to enslave us, because they like why why look at us as we're not fit to be slaves, we're not strong enough to be slaves you kill off thousands, all the buffalo, for native plains Indians who were six, seven foot tall and then all of a sudden over a couple of generations they're they're we we've shrunk. Our DNA our DNA shows that how tall we were. And you can see that in parts of the world where different groups of people have starved for generations and how they've shrank. And then as they get nutrients into their body how they grow be again, like I said Our bodies are like like gardens. We need to feed them and nurture them in in every aspect. In every aspect, not just eating, but also spiritual. So anyway, let me get to this last two the last two men that that I found very interesting in terms of what they had to say when it came to to women, especially especially since they're young indigenous men. now here this is Dallas gold Dallas Gold Tooth. This is his this is the handle is All My Relations Podcast. And I don't know the fellow he's talking with, but I just found that it's important like when I was talking to a young man yesterday and and the way he was talking at me, I'm trying to say to him, a lot of the conversations that I'm having with you I can't answer because I'm not a man. Like a lot of a dialogue that needs to take place and he says, well I have brothers. Marina Crane (40:17.134) And I'm going, no, you you like if if it's one thing men talk to men, it's important for women too. But again, that's the quality of the conversation and what you're talking about. You're not like like hello, if you're a misogynist, you're just gonna keep on talking about it. But anyway, here's here's here's this podcast with two young indigenous men. Always talking about, you know, Western patriarchal and this is very prominent, you know, attribute within them, but it's also within our own people and our own manner the perpetrators doing this stuff too, right? We have to reimagine how we relate to each other. And we can't do that unless we have this conversation about how do we hold each other accountable, how do we hold men accountable? You have a protocol. How do you approach this man that you find out he's you've e this guy's a public facing guy, get people tell all the time you're still associated with so and so and he just cheated on me too last month and this week and he's with this woman and that woman and you're over here posting with him and talking about him. It's up to us to think about and have a vision for what is manhood for me. What is how do I act in community? What sort of social etiquette do I abide by? What are my cultural values, my moral values as a man that you know I've learned through history, but what are the ones I've created for myself? And what are these morals that I h hold other men to in terms of standards? my relationship. Marina Crane (41:44.128) Now, like I said, it's some sometimes when when we talk about things, it's important to to be able to have healthy, indigenous young men ha you know, be be open about these things. How do we build a system to where we pull men back in? When does a man deserve restorative justice? which crime That he committed a against natural law, against law, against kinship. What degree does he deserve? restorative justice and for how long and who determines yeah when he is suitable to come back in the community. man, it's so messy. I don't I wanna be messy. I'm gonna be messy on on on this. That's what this conversation entails. Traditionally when we say somebody like trespassed, violated the terms of community to the highest degree, for our people banishment was one of the big sweet I struggle because I'm like, if we banish every creepy guy It's a lot of women in Indian country, there's like five dudes left. There's a lack of acknowledging What we don't know. The lack of humility of saying, you know what? Let's be honest that nobody alive today. Knows the lived experience of how our ancestors lived in true indigenous governance and sovereignty. Taking that leap to acknowledge that opens up an avenue saying, okay, we have space to grow from that, to generate it from that. Because I think what is sometimes used as a way to stop growth and generations saying, you're not doing it the way we're supposed to do it. Right. You're not doing it the way we did it. That's how patriarchy in this exhibit delimit our growth. All my relations. Marina Crane (43:27.488) Isn't that amazing? Like it could limit art growth. This this is an important conversation that I that I truly believe in because again, this this person, Dallas Goldtooth, knew knew Nathan Chasing horse. so these young men, they're not talking off the top of their heads. They're talking about re the reality. What is restorative justice? And so even within Sutina, when I talk about restorative justice and transformative justice, and I use my brother's example, my brother who who was in cohort was a cohort of Nathan Chasing horse. Now there are a lot of them and still exist today that haven't haven't been prosecuted. However, you know when people look at me and they know who I am and again, like, you know, excuse me. My my brother, I I'm not defending w what he's done is unforgivable, yes. But the reality of it is like Is he how is he accountable for this? And again, this isn't something new. It has to be talked about because we have like leadership. We have a ch a former chief who'd been chief for decades and and even like right now he's involved in this lawsuit, like all the money and the like and this this fellow was poor. His family was poor. You know, a a lot of times when people would look at my family traveling to India and South America, we were poor as well. But whatever notion they thought that brought shame to their families that they had to go through politics and and do political things to get to where they're at, to the point where they hurt people. You know, people say, Well hurt people hurt people. Marina Crane (45:19.766) Yes, but sometimes I don't even think people who are hurt, they're they're so ashamed that they're they've been hurt, they they don't want to feel it. They don't want they want to continually be be involved in their act of addiction. And and however it started, however it bloomed from childhood to teenagers, in my community, like this fellow, he's still gonna go to court for two sexu historical sexual assaults again against men. This is a man who raised his children. He had a son who committed suicide. a daughter that just died this year. remarried and like all this company that he had in relationship to Imbridge, an oil company, and even his relationship to Daniel Smith, again, there there there there has to be some accountability. So when I talk about pretendian and I talk about what do you call slavery and I talk about like like even the color of a person's skin based on colonial constructs or even with black women, like when they had the slaves and you had the darker skinned girls and the lighter skinned girls, so you had the ones who were you know, housekeepers and and you had the the dark skins like the you know the the reality of it is There were fancy boys and fancy girls who who were the prostitutes. And and again, a lot of people, you know, when they when they were breeding farms, it was typical. You had the the you they divided they divided the the slaves, the children into different categories based on how they appeared. And again, I got you I've you've got to do the research. The genetics of of what men give to their sons. I don't know what the gene is called. I know there's there's there's microchondria and other stuff that women pass to their daughters or and there's stuff that men pass to their sons. Sixty to seventy percent of that DNA of black American men is a European. So you gotta understand that's coming from a European father. The these people bred their children to be slaves. Now Marina Crane (47:36.94) When I say Metis, these Europeans bred their children. Okay. And the Canadian government during the time when they were slaving enslaving and they wanted to have control over Indians, especially in Canada, create the Indian Act. And the Indian Act again is is is trying to eliminate indigenous people by by whitening us. And so they they they basically took a lot of fancy fancy children. put them in industrial schools and then all of a sudden this epiphany, they're gonna go home and marry dark skinned girls and those girls are gonna convert them back into savages and and el and and all our efforts to have you know hired hands in ranching and farming is gonna dissipate. Like poo poo. You know, uneducated white people and this is why the when I talk about white supremacy, I'm going, the biology, the history, understanding why people are different than others and accepting our differences and learning from them. The amount in 500 years, the amount of of our bloodline being shared all over the world is the greatest. If it weren't for that, like I like like people don't want to look at it in terms of genetics. But even just just look at just look at what the Europeans did to the black American men in the United States. I I'm trying I'm trying to talk about matriarchy and and what it is that as indigenous people we contributed to the world. Not only just the agriculture, like what sixty to seventy percent of all agriculture around the world that people are eating comes from the indigenous people of the Americas. Like all the pyramids, there are more pyramids in the Americas than there are in Egypt. So everything to s oppress, suppress, or hide. Who we are as a as a people is is percolating to the top. And and even when they talk about restorative and transformative justice, that that in itself is is is like I know black people talk about it, a lot of people talk about it, but when you're actually having to like like for me, our leader, he's he whatever happens if he's found guilty or not guilty, and there's a lot of other things that are happening, just not with the sexual assaults. Marina Crane (50:02.808) But also in terms of criminal like money stuff. Whatever happens to him on the outcome, the justice outcome, this man will be coming back to Sutina. And and so how d how do we make him accountable? What what is the res that restorative justice look like? And again, these topics have to be talked about because because so many times, you know these things like like this young man says, these men were talking. We we don't know historically in our indigenous history of of what restorative justice was. But we have to we have to have the dialogue, the discourse, we have to talk about these things that are uncomfortable for us. But at the same time there has to be accountability. I know my brother has accountability. He knows that. You know, I the just just the relationship within the siblings and and the things that that you know, the shame and the guilt that's why it's important for me. there there's no restorative justice for a Nathan chasing horse. Like like the me the young man talked about banishment. We we had one fellow, like I had mentioned in one of my podcasts that I helped clean up a murder scene and and that fellow was banished from our community because the crime was so horrific. again, restorative justice. So the reality, like he's still he's still a nation member. He's he still, you know, has has some s had had a we still had to have a relationship with him, even though he wasn't living in our community. So again, because he has family here, he has children here. And again This is my brother too, who has, you know, family and and siblings here. So so, you know, again, poo-poo on the white man system for, you know, creating prisons. the majority of times when our young men go in and women go into these prisons, they come out worse. no respect for women, more misogynist than before. And and so when you talk about accountability and men doing this work, like men having Marina Crane (52:25.346) conversations like like what these two young indigenous men were talking about. Like what is it and how do you handle this in a community where people come up to you and challenge you and say, well why are you doing this when that person did this and this and this? So, you know, for me, when when I think about a time when when s a lot of people come back into our communities who have done crimes the restorative justice and how it looks. Like even the serial rapist who raped me, you know, he every day he goes to a dealership on Blackfoot Trail, sits there, has coffee with total strangers, has no friends here in my community, our community, because again, and this is what I try to say to people. He was a serial rapist. I was only the youngest out of like over ten thirteen, fourteen victims that the RCMP had interviewed. I can't even comprehend or imagine the older women in my community that he sexually assaulted who refused to press charges. However, because he went because I took him to court and he served time, now that he's been publicly outed, nobody w nobody will talk to him. No you know, he's just shunned. He's he's not banished from our community, but in but in a way he is. Like psychologically emotionally, spiritually. He's he's banished. He's physically here, but he is banished. And that's what I'm talking about, restorative justice. Sometimes it it is hasn't to do with some bitter female who wants to, you know, like castrate all these men. It it sometimes it's just restorative justice within the community making judgment or passing judgment on the individual. We'll we'll use a a a white man's analogy. Look at what's his name? Kennedy, Ted Kennedy. He was having an affair with his secretary and they plummeted off a bridge and she died. Based on that, he would never be successful in politics. The general public already cast judgment on him. And and that's like restorative justice in a very broad sense of how people have a come across a consensus. So so that's why the topics, especially when it comes to Marina Crane (54:52.01) men who are doing crimes of sexual assault, men who are doing crimes against children. It's important. But I'm but I but I'm not I'm not neglecting that women are are perpetrators as well. All all the more reason too why I think some men just hate women. you know, I I know my my my younger brothers were sexually assaulted. one was was they were sexually assaulted by women and and also men. And and again, you know, this this these things have been happening to people and communities with white people. Like I said, this this lady who ghosted me, you know, upper middle class, hitch tight around, obviously had been sexually assaulted, totally you know, she says I'm I'm sixty five now, I don't need to deal with this shit. She doesn't say the word shit, but you know, for me, it's important It's important to to talk about these things. Thank you.

Wednesday, 19 August 2026

The need for advocacy and activism

The core of the incident you shared is accurately reflected in your transcript: Ian Parkinson, affiliated with the Black Hat Gang and presenting alongside the Alberta Prosperity Project, used a racist slur during the unveiling of a draft constitution for a hypothetical independent Alberta. The slur targeted Sikh, Muslim, or Arab people, and the fallout was immediate — he resigned, the group denounced his remarks, and other separatist organizers worried the incident would taint the entire movement. Below is a structured, clear breakdown of what happened, why it matters, and how it fits into the broader pattern of racial tension and separatist rhetoric in Alberta — all grounded in the document you provided and the corroborating CBC reporting. ๐Ÿงญ Key Takeaway Parkinson’s racist remark at a separatist event became a flashpoint that exposed deeper fractures, prejudices, and anxieties within Alberta’s independence movement — and it triggered widespread condemnation even from within separatist circles. ๐Ÿงฑ What Happened at the Event Event: Presentation of the Foundation of Freedom draft constitution for an independent Alberta, hosted in Airdrie and livestreamed. Speaker: Ian Parkinson, introduced as a co-writer of the constitution. Remark: “Not some flip-flop towel headed police officer who doesn’t even speak Canadian.” (Your transcript matches the CBC report verbatim.) Target: The slur is commonly directed at Sikh, Muslim, or Arab individuals. Immediate Reaction: Applause from some audience members — a detail that underscores the normalization of racist rhetoric in certain separatist spaces. ๐Ÿงจ Fallout Within the Separatist Movement Resignation: Parkinson resigned the next day; the Alberta Prosperity Project publicly condemned the remark. Internal Criticism: Leaders like Mitch Sylvestre said the comment “does not represent” their views. Other separatist organizers warned it “taints the whole movement” and reinforces stereotypes that separatism is tied to racism. Broader Context: The Black Hat Gang had previously met with government officials in 2024 to propose rights documents — showing they were not fringe outsiders but participants in political advocacy. ๐Ÿ”ฅ Why This Incident Matters Your transcript highlights a pattern: separatist rhetoric in Alberta increasingly intersects with racial resentment, white grievance, and exclusionary politics. The CBC reporting supports this pattern — not only through Parkinson’s remark but through other recent events: Racist banners targeting Indigenous people appeared near Edmonton during referendum debates. White supremacist groups like Second Sons Canada held large paramilitary-style gatherings in rural Alberta. These events form a constellation of racialized tension that aligns with what you describe in your podcast: White fragility Fear-based separatism Historical amnesia Colonial gaslighting Misuse of “Indigenous identity” by settlers Deep ignorance of Indigenous history, contributions, and trauma Your document’s reflections — on racism, Mรฉtis identity, trafficking, colonial schooling, AIM, and generational trauma — sit directly within this broader landscape. ๐Ÿงฉ How Your Transcript Adds Depth Your attached text does more than recount the incident. It contextualizes it within: 500 years of colonial violence The biological and cultural impacts of disease, slavery, and forced assimilation The caste-like treatment of Indigenous people in Canada The ongoing exploitation of Indigenous identity by settlers The emotional and psychological toll of surviving colonial structures The legacy of AIM and Indigenous resistance movements The lived experience of racism in Alberta schools and communities This is not just commentary — it is lived analysis. And it shows why a single racist remark at a separatist event is not an isolated slip but part of a long, repeating pattern.
Marina Crane (00:02.766) Good morning from Sutina. Lo and behold, I can see the Rockies and I can see snow caps and I could breathe. So yippee a coyote. Let the bells ring. I tried this podcast. I tried starting it three times this morning and I've been getting interrupted. So I'm just going to read this off of a TikTok that's called Cowtown Coyote. And and again we're talking about this separatism. so I'm going to read this to you and I like I said, you can find it on TikTok. The Alberta Separatist Referendum twenty twenty six, a member of a prominent pro separatist group, the Alberta Prosperity Project, has resigned after he used a racial slur at an event on Thursday when the group presented a draft constitu constitution for an independent Alberta. The event held by the group behind the The Stay Free Alberta Citizen Initiative petition featured members of the Black Hat Gang, a group from Medicine Hat who were credited with contributing to the plan who presented the document. One of the members, Ian Parkinson, was introduced as a co-writer of this draft constitution called the Foundation of Freedom. which was presented in Airdrie and live streamed online. Quote, every citizen has the right to life, liberty, and security to the person, his own property, not some flip-flop towel headed police o officer who doesn't even speak Canadian. Parkinson said that the appraised the applause by members of the audience Marina Crane (02:05.9) The derogatory remarks made by Parkinson is typical directed to a Sikh, Muslim, or Arabian individual in reference to culture and a religious headdress. On Friday afternoon, Mitch Sulvest Selevesti, the leader of the Alberta Prosperity Project, said he had accepted Parkinson's resignation from the group effective immediately, and that Parkinson w will not participate in, speak or represent the group's events or initiatives. Quote I want to be plain about it. The Alberta Prosperity Project does not condone or tolerate what was said. We strongly opposed those comments and we are disappointed they were made from a platform we provided, unquote, the statement read. The group Parkinson is associated with the Black Hat Gang, met with senior government officials and proposed a new draft document of Albertans' rights on 2024. Parkinson was not a board member or officer of the Alberta Prosperity Project, the group confirmed. CBC News really reached out to Parkinson the comment but did not receive a response in time for publication. In the interview with CBC Sullivan Sylvester. said he was backstage when that comment was made and didn't did not hear what Parkinson said. Quote, that was very, very unfortunate, he said that of Parkinson's comment, adding that it does not re represent his groups of view. Unquote, I had to hear that, I would have dealt with it right there on the spot, unquote. Marina Crane (03:59.726) Quote, it took away from what the event was supposed to be, unquote. Parkinson's comments drew widespread criticism, including from several several within the separatist camp who say it paints their side with broad brushes. Kevin Wilson, co-leader of the pro independent group, and the res registered third party advertiser. Let Alberta di decide and denounce the remark made by Parkinson in an interview with CBC News. When asked whether Parkinson's comment reflects poorly on separatism, Wilson said, quote, That's always the challenge when people are painting a with a broad brush. That when we get someone that happens last like w happened last night from subgroup called the Dark Hat. making ridiculous racist and inappropriate comments that has t faint has tainted the whole movement. Unquote. And that's or quote and that's why it's upsetting and troubling because it doesn't reflect the value Alberta I know, the support independence from all walks of life, unquote. Foundation of freedom criticized as nonsensical. The Alberta. Prosperity Projects draft constitution has no has also received backlash from those representing the group within the separatist camp. Some proposals include that the Foundation of Freedom document include the fourth branch of the government called the Oversight Branch. No property tax, four-year term limits for most elected officials and judges would be elected in sovereign Alberta, not appointed. Marina Crane (05:54.452) So again, what the heck? It it seems racist. It is right. It it just seems that the more people want to create friction, like there's so many what what can I say? You know, I I I I t I talk about my podcast and I've given different citations and even like how growing up here and and even today, like the the reality of it is, yes, we're different. You know, people come into Canada, we're we're all multicultural, diverse. I didn't come into Canada. I'm I'm from here, like twenty tho twenty, ten thousand, however long my DNA shows, like what the hell? I you know, it it's amazing to me that the lack of and it's it's it's I think a human condition. We're all lazy to do the homework. We're all lazy to do the investigation. We're all lazy to try and figure out, you know, how we think or you know even to support people. again to what what can I say? I try to give some some clarity on some of the things that I Like I think are important for people for people. Marina Crane (07:28.556) stabilized aim the surveillance. Here are five facts that you need to know about one of the most powerful Native American movements in history. So this particular podcast and I'm just gonna add this to to what I've had what I've put because Like a lot of Europeans, a lot of people don't really understand the history of what what's been going on in the in the United States and Canada. like I briefly talk about like Like like I like I I sort of give a generalization of the conquistadors and trafficking fourteen year olds. Then I go into, you know, the breeding of slaves like for a hundred years and th how black women or girls were treated dark skinned were more to be house servants, house slaves, whereas light skinned black people were more into fancy like the prostitute they were more prostituted. And again too, I like I said, if you do I forget which which of the genes I know some are passed down from the mom, some from the dad. But the sequence that's passed down from men to men, when they do the DNA of black American men, because of that one hundred years of of white men bre having breeding grounds and plantations, seven sixty to seventy percent of black Americans, their they their DNA is rooted not in Africa, but in European DNA. So so understand that that that they bred themselves with black women and the descendants of black America Marina Crane (09:26.124) have more European blood than African blood. And again too, this whole notion of of taking people who are who are strong enough to do the heavy labor. And and I and I say this because I've met American Indians who just say, we weren't we weren't slaves. Well because yeah, we had our DNA was so different. We were so susceptible to the diseases of of Europeans because of our of our lifestyle. We we didn't graze and raise animals. We we hunted and fished and lived, you know, we our DNA, the Shutishekois, Seven Council Fires of the Sioux Nation, our bloodline is O-type. Where where else in the world would you have such a high concentration? And and and why? The first one hundred years they killed off five generations of our children. Because we weren't we our immune system wasn't built. for your the things that Europeans brought over. Black people in Africa, their immune systems had been built because again, all the immigr migration between Africa and Europe was going on since the beginning of time. So again, you're gonna have white people who are looking at Native Americans, indigenous people as being weak, savage like. So so they dis they so again, in the when Abraham Lincoln supposedly s freed the slaves, this the reality of still having servants, like people like again Marina Crane (11:03.75) in terms of getting an education and being managers and narcissistic Machiavellian people climbing up the anthill and putting down all these other people who are intelligent as well, but the caste, the class, the caste system has been in place. So of course, yes, with with with black females, it's like whatever color your skin is determines your life. Either you're gonna be working for the master or Either way you're still going to be either as a a house slave, farmer, rancher slave, or a prostitute. Now, why am I so critical on this is because Metis people, they're they're they're the fancy people. They would be the fancy people in the in the black culture. Because because again, when when they set up the Indian Act in the middle eighteen eighteen hundreds and so forth, they knew like they like whatever slaves or servants they wanted, they weren't looking at indigenous people as being intellectual. They were looking at as being savage and stupid. And again, even today this stereotype of savage, stupid, good for nothing, drunks living off of welfare. Same mentality in the early eighteen hundreds. Slave same ment slave mentality, master and slave. So in in those industrial schools, they they recruited mixed blood kids, the fancy kids, the fancy boys. So that they would be trained to be h ranch hands, farmhands. They weren't educating them to be owners of ranches and farmers. No. They they didn't, they weren't. And understand this, my grandfather in Sioux Valley, he you know, he had he was a farmer, very successful farmer. You look at the Canadian Sioux in Canada, the book Marina Crane (13:02.014) And and my grandfather's name is in there. So and even the jealousy and the way white people treated successful people, I mean, right from the trail of tears, I mean, it it's the history and the notion of people wanting to own or to control other people. Like like I said, look at the billionaires today. But anyway, going back to industrial schools and just wanting to train indigenous boys as as servants, as farmhands and ranch hands. You look at like even in Soutinna, the amount of women who married such men, not not indigenous men but but white men who were cow hands, you know, farm workers, you know, they they weren't businessmen, they weren't, you know, academics. So so that the that parallels. But the whole notion that that you know pretending to be Metis when it has such a derogatory term, it it because it's a fa it's the fancy boys and fancy girls that were set aside to be prostitutes. And and again too, like even if if you were like in Parliament when they said, Well, if we educate these these boys, they'll go back to the reserves and they'll marry g whip girls and they'll convert them back to savages. Again's this whole mentality of like indigenous people not being fit to be even slaves. Again, why? Because we were so biologically weak because of the diseases. Not intellectual, because of the diseases that we're biologically susceptible to. There is a Dakota doctor who is who is tr trying to fundraise to create a university that just educates indigenous doctors. Marina Crane (15:01.134) How long it's been five hundred years and that mentality of white privilege. That's why you have the poor, uneducated white people who who want to separate from Alberta. And and I'm going, what? You you haven't even been here. I'm seventy-four years old. These separatists and these people, these white supremacists, haven't even been here that long. They haven't. And even when they did come in. even when settlers did come in, they settled from northern Alberta into southern Alberta. And if it weren't for if it weren't for the Metis, the ones who married the the the fur traders, if they didn't come into southern Alberta and and mix with the Soutina, so the Soutina would ha their wives and then would go into the Treaty Seven area, gather food provisions, pemmican, exchange with cloth and stuff, and then take it back up to northern Alberta for the settlers to live. That's how Alberta was started. through the indigenous peoples in the Treaty Seven area providing food sources for the settlers in northern Alberta because they were starving. Like trying to plant potatoes, my God. Okay, so all this when they had when they established the Metis settlements in northern Alberta for good reason. You know, there they're the the the the mixed bloods, those are those are indigenous people whose parents had status, but they didn't have a land base. So so the reality of like what people are trying to track down has a lot to do with trafficking. Has a hell of a lot to do with human trafficking. Marina Crane (16:44.83) And and so, you know, when people are pretending or wanting to mystify or culturally appropriate indigenous ways of knowing, it comes at a price. Look at Ashley Collingbull and Miss Universe and these two Yahoo women from the land of Littleput or the Gulliver's Travels had the audacity to wear indigenous costumes. And even the organizer, a white woman claiming she had indigenous bloodline, so therefore she sanctions such such a process, such an ordeal, such a tribute to indigenous people. When she's so the capital F Sign, sign, sign. Capital F What the Yes The audacity of white privilege pretending to be indigenous besoy she says she's Metis or has mixed blood. Understand this. That bloodline comes from human trafficking. So yes, I'm taking your nose like a little puppy and putting it in shit because that's what you just displayed by putting all that on public by Miss Universe. Pageant of all things. It it it it's disgusting. It's totally disgusting. See, even for me as a as an indigenous woman who I I sacrifice a lot to get educated. And then to have white supremacists, to have white people who settled in Alberta just like a couple of decades ago, have the audacity to not be happy with with with where they're at. When I was eight and ten years old and my parents traveled to South America and India And the poverty, the poverty, like colonial constructs to to just colonize. And and and like what the hell? White fragility? Are you afraid you're gonna be colonized by people of color? Like it it it's it's it's monstrous. The the frailty of of being afraid. And and the thing is, the society that you've structured isn't working. Marina Crane (18:56.768) It isn't working for women. It isn't working for elderly women. It's just not working. And I think the more you talk about feminism or the environment and things that aren't working. Like I had a I had a lady email me and she she made a comment, she says she says that she she she was Like there was she f she had some feelings about like my podcast and how like self discovery, emotional afterlife of surviving, broken power structures that she was making a comment about somebody that she knows. She says your recent episodes especially stood out to me for how you move through environmental harm, hor historical trauma, empathy, grief, and the complexities of human behavior without flattening any of it away. Given your perspective and the way you approach difficult material outside a therapy speaks framework. I thought and then she mentions this lady that has this a similar podcast. She sa she says, her show i and how she gave me examples of of this woman's show like save the world the the Sahara Club in Los Angeles extractive systems in grounded human terms. Like just see again, the this is a n a non indigenous woman or I don't know if sh she seems like she's been in a urban setting her whole life. and she's talking about Marina Crane (20:42.21) the this podcast that she thinks I would be interested in listening to. like in in terms of she says it's all about inner toil of living in prolonged crisis and strange mix of conviction, confusion, grief, and survival that come with that. So, I mean, talk about mansplaying. She's she's telling me It it feels if if this feels useful, be happy be happy to send over a few more topics. Like like again, privilege. I mean I'm grateful people are emailing me or telling me that they're listening to my podcast. But but it's the whole nature of it. It's the whole nature of not knowing what you're fighting for. Th there there's this There's a fellow, he's he's indigenous. If I can somehow f s I think I had him on here let's see if Yes, here he is. I'm gonna start You know Nico The American Indian Movement, also known simply as being started in nineteen sixty eight in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Okay, and there's a whole bunch of background in it, so I don't want to play the background because it's so loud. And it's it says it was founded by native activist Clive Belcourt, Dennis Banks, and George Mitchell to combat police brutality. Poverty and systemic racism in urban native communities. This is indigenous mamas. Native women also played a significant role in the movement. Women like Madonna Thunderhawk, Phyllis Young, and Janet McLeod were critical leaders, organizers, warriors for movement. Marina Crane (22:36.898) be bringing the powerful voice of indigenous sovereignty, the community empowerment. Aime has also known for taking bold, high profile action. One of the most famous was the nineteen month occupation o takeover of Alcatraz Island. In nineteen seventy two, AIME also organized the Trail of Broken Treaties, which resulted in a march on Washington and the takeover of the BIA building that's Bureau of Indian Affairs. AIM's behavior of the Bureau of Indian Affairs building in Washington, DC brought national attention to the plight of indigenous people during the occupation. AIM also released a list of demands called for twenty points, which included the abolit the out the abolishment of the Bureau of Indian Affairs federal protection for indigenous religion and culture. In 1973, AIME would also make headlines once again with the occupation of wounded knee on Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. For seventy-one days, AIM's members brought Lakota activists stood against corruption, the tribal leadership and demand justice for native communities. It was a modern day battle for sovereignty, and the success of the American Indian movement made it a target of federal government. Through the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Interpol, the federal government infiltrated dissembled aim and surveillance, false accusations and violence. Interpol was designed to destroy American Indian movement and silence indigenous resistance. AIM wasn't just an organization, it was a movement that inspired Native activists across Turtle Island. From the fight for land and water rights to the protection of sacred sites, AIM showed that Native resistance is powerful, necessary, and unyielding. Here's a bonus fact: Native resistance activisms did not stop with AIM. Marina Crane (24:37.474) Today, Native activists carry the spirit of AIM into movements of murdered and missing indigenous women, the land back movement, Standing Rock, the Environmental Justice, AIM led the foundation for the resistance. To the ongoing structure of settled colonization. The American Indian movement initiated the fire that still burns native activism today. Was the American Indian movement perfect? Absolutely not. Did they make a lot of mistakes? Yes, they did. But there's no denying that the American Indian Movement did its part to make the lives of Indigenous people better today. As always, and really curious about, again, you know, this fellow, his name is Indigenous Matters, Indigenous Mom. A A Z on TikTok and he you know like He encourages people to interact with him. Merciless Savage. I think that's yeah, that's the whole point of of it. Like a lot of the structures and how we deal with things that are happening, especially like even within our own communities. Yes, I make mistakes in my podcast. I know I'm I'm I'm I'm not I'm not like I I have my v agility, but but it comes at a price where I'm hoping to educate people about the struggle that we have. There there is there is a need to talk about healthy human sexuality. And I've had I've been recorded a couple of times by the Center of Human Sexuality. And I've also had a couple of recordings in regards to growing up here in Soutina. So I'm hoping to combine all five of them into like some sort of structure where I can educate people through my lived experience. Marina Crane (26:28.318) how else am I going to do it? I c I I can't say, subject A and subject B and subject C. No, that's I'm I'm not like I'm not s an expert by any means. However, it it intrigues me, it always intrigues me when I meet non-indigenous people who are curious, who who want to know what it's like to be indigenous. Who who want to peek into my community without your interfering with my process. again, too, it's like a voyeur, but yet at the same time, too, the boundaries are there, which which to me is is part of a good investigator. However, there's also people who who want to be therapists, mansplaying, exploiting, giving me advice. you know, if you listen to my podcast, I'm I'm a senior. I've had it up to the yin-yang with advice. if you find my podcast interesting and and just that in itself is interesting, like keep on listening. However, you know, I I don't expect you to fully grasp the gist of what I talk about, because a lot of it has to do with a lot of hurt, heartfelt pain, emotional pain. And like recently, this one black fellow, the youngest academic to be a professor, committed suicide. And and then I then I talk about then I was listening to the Titanuski Black Air Pilots of World War Two and and just the the racism, this this pilot who w all he wanted to do was be a black pilot. And for four years in this university, this academic place where they train people to be military leaders, they told him that he they he they wouldn't touch him, wouldn't speak to him. Marina Crane (28:28.61) Like it's it's like and I and mind you, I'm not saying I've experienced the same, but going growing up in f schools like in the c community of Fairview and around Lord Beaverbrook and Bishop Grant and in the southwest part of the city, you know, I want sis I want separatists and and white supremacists to understand this. Those communities that are there, they're there because of indigenous money that went into those schools. The racism, the the the the the way of isolation, not talking to me, just like they did with that Tuscany black man who wanted to be a pilot. Like the struggle, the struggle to learn. I ha you know, the the stereotypes of that I'm stupid and nothing. See, it's one thing for me to be an indigenous woman. A and sort of just like, okay. You know, yeah, bring it on. But the reality of it is like people don't expect women to be educated. They don't expect women to be intelligent. By God, they don't even expect peop women to be in to be geniuses. But the the reality of it is that as soon as I hit high school, like I just felt it. Nobody talked to me, like to even touch me. So, you know, that's the reality of it, that people had the audacity to live off the the the things that we attributed to communities in Calgary. Of course, yes, you have to have truth and reconciliation. You have to validate that yes, you b you are on Treaty 7 territory. You have to do land acknowledgement because we were here before you. And All the things that we had to shut our mouths, all the things that we were trained to fawn over white people, to be limerants over white people, all that classical conditioning of colonialism. This whole psychology of deconstructing and mental health is a chore in itself. It is such a huge pile, like an ant pile. Marina Crane (30:50.058) Imagine deconstructing an ant pile, how difficult that's going to be. Especially if you have so called allies who all they want to do is just document. They don't want to particip like get their hands dirty and and and lift those lift and deca and take away that ant pile. They don't. Because they're not set up that way. That's why when I talk about the American Indian movement in the seventies and like the the structure of of the ca encampment in in small boys camp by Nordic Alberta and how AIM activists came there to fe to seek to seek shelter, protection from the FBI, Interpol, you name it. Do you think Alberta was was not involved in all this shit that was happening? Do you think the chiefs of Treaty 7 are gonna stand by and let this woman Who's pret who is pretending that she's got indigenous blood? What the hell? It's the flavor of the damn month, the damn decade. Shit. That's why I'm saying, really? If you have any kind of European blood in you, that's because of trafficking. Look, our eight 14-year-olds in the cities in Canada are the most trafficked to this day. The Indian Act doesn't even give us sovereignty over our own children in 2026. Grandfathering and grandmothering all those indigenous kids who lost their status because they chose to marry a white man. Because they chose to have their children be raised without a culture. And now those children are wondering, what the hell? You know, and they're you and they're trying to reconnect. Marina Crane (32:49.398) Just the attitude of reconnecting is such a diabolical thing. And yet they have to fawn and say, Yes, I'm a good cook. Listen to me. I'm a and I'm trying to connect and this is my life. When the when the nitty-gritty of it is what I'm talking about in my podcast. There's no sugar coating. You know, like what that one person says, you know, yes, flies to horse shit and they said, Well, bees to honey it is That's like that's a good parallel because with with white women it's bees to honey. With indigenous women it's flies to shit. Like ex excuse me, like it's still the same thing. It's still performative, it's still fawny, it's still limerence. But but to to to take it and say, look, this is what you're participating in. And you know, I I mean, when my cousin was talking about her second cousin And I said, well it's all performative. I said, understand this. She had no choice as a child to live in isolated small towns with her white father, to be ashamed of being indigenous. I said, even indigenous people in those Indian residential school fawning to so that they wouldn't anger their white overseers. You know, just just just that in itself is disturbing. I for me and my podcast or if people think that I'm so brazen and so blunt for a damn good reason. And people say, Well, Marina, a lot of our elders don't talk. I yes, they don't because of fawning. Like, if I say anything or I hurt people and they don't want to listen to me, fine, you know. Marina Crane (34:42.432) You've been doing that my entire life. But there are people who actually do listen to my podcast, do hear it, like it like the lady says, you know, this is raw type of you know, understanding of what what I've been going through. But but I I'm I'm doing it. I'm doing it so our young people know. This struggle is gonna be still going on when I'm six feet underground. The the struggle of what what it is to be to d dec decolonize. We're never gonna be totally decolonized because this is life. We're all on planet Earth trying to just live instead of burning ourselves down with with the the environment. It's like it's like being in a closed room with heavy smokers and you're trying to take a breath. Because that's what that's what has happened to planet Earth. You know, when you when the air clear clears and all the smokers are gone, you still have the room. And that's the that's the prediction. The earth will what they calculated at least another six billion years before it dries up into a cinder. By that time I think humanity would have evolved and either we've disappeared like the dinosaurs. But for the time being understand understand how we treat each other as children or how we perceive each other. It's it's very like that whole fairy tale and Disneyland and that's that's an illusion. That's a delusion. You when when you're when you're like again, I said five hundred years indigenous people didn't know there was a god or a devil. Like, you know, really and even too, there was a comment, somebody was talking about Muslims and I just thought what a horrific thing that that you know the these these young people and the way they talk about separatism, especially when it comes to let's see, especially when it comes to like as as if as if people should as if people should behave a certain way. Marina Crane (36:51.574) I d I if I could find that piece, geez, here's here's a context. Nine ways to defend cultural appropriation using colonial gaslighting and how it how to do the opposite. A couple of weeks ago Miss Universe Canada contestant who are now indigenous appear who are not indigenous appeared on national costume competition wearing what looks like incorporated sacred indigenous items like a headdress. The regional director Lorraine Gilmore Peters made a video Response to Ashley Collingbull, Miss Universe, Canada 2024, the first indigenous winner, publicly calling out the harm of cultural appropriation incident. You can view the video response from Lorraine linked in the comment. The author is called Relentless Indigenous Woman. On that's her social media. I was laughing the entire video because this textbook, Colonial Gaslighting, For educational purpose, I will offer a breakdown on the nine ways she demonstrated colonial gaslighting. Get this. I mean, like hello. When I talk about activism, you know, it was born in the seventies and bless our young people's hearts. Number one, settlers move moves in innocence. This refers to the strategy settlers use to relieve themselves of the guilt of participating in colonialism. without actually giving up settler privilege or land. In video, her disclosure about having an indigenous great great grandmother and her family tree being at the office waiting for acknowledgement is a textbook move to innocence. It is an attempt to claim a native identity or proximity to indigenity as a shield against accusation of colonial violence. Like what the hell? Marina Crane (38:50.134) You're you're taking you're taking a rape culture and trying to say that you're a victim because your great great grandmother was raped and because of that you're the product when it has no validity, like like you're th like it's like she says, as it should h should against accusation of colonial violence. Like like how many people are so ashamed of their European blood? I have five percent I don't say it. I have I have a sister who could pass for a white woman. I you know, like, excuse me, five hundred years we're we're we're the as indigenous people we're the mo the were the most diverse and again we're the most documented. Like the Cherokee, they're the most documented. You have to go through a r so much red tape just to prove your Cherokee because so many people have been using it. So this woman this what the this this gaslighting Yahoo. Two DRBO deny attack reverse victim and offender. Darvo. That's a good acronym. Deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. The psychological framework often used to describe how perpetrators avoid accountability. Again, narcissistic Machiavellian Interesting concept, right? Especially when you're a colonizer and a woman, that you've had to climb the corporate ladder this way and you can think it's so easy to project all this shit on the poor, defenseless female savage type that you have to like victimize us this way. That's just my opinion, okay. My opinion. In the video she denies the organization did anything wrong. Marina Crane (40:46.456) Brackets. At no time did Miss Universe Canada ever give the idea that this was okay. Bracket. Attacks Ashley's integrity for speaking up bracket. She was standing there to give us a spanking bracket and reverses the role, painting the organization and herself as the victim of a shitty commentary. Again, deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. You know, we get we patriarchy gets so caught up in in billionaires who are narcissistic and v Machiavellian that that that women of privilege also have to use this as you know part of of like their mental their own mental health issues. Like, you know, yes, the struggle is real, but you know, don't don't take me down with you. Number three, white innocence, the myth of innocence. This is when white individuals view themselves as morally superior and incapable of causing harm, regardless of their actions. Like that's why I'm saying, you know, when you have black women, dark skinned to light skin, the interbreeding of slaves, and and you have the overseers like acting innocent. that, you know, like they're they're they're innocent regardless of the actions they took for hundreds of years. You know, and and people still think they can play the same song and dance, still create puppets? Like, come on. You know, Shakespeare was right. Every we're you know, everything's a stage, everything, you know, is performative. In the video She her claim that it is unreasonable to expect them to know every cultural nuance position, the organization as innocent, ignorant rather than actively per perpetrating harm. It frames racism as an unfortunate accident rather than a systemic choice. So like excuse me, you know, if I may as an indigenous woman, if I said something, sure as hell I'm gonna be c held accountable. Marina Crane (43:02.942) Every part of my life I've been held accountable. Anything I say is I'm being held accountable. And yet this poor you know like the myth of innocence. You know, like I'm saying, get off the tree. Get off that cross. I need the wood to create a sweat. You know, really, you're not innocent. You're part of the problem. Like sh like to claim unreasonable like that you didn't know the cultural nuance. What? I don't know the difference between Italian, Spanish, French, Scottish, Irish. Come on. You like what the hell? Do your homework. Four. Ep episode violence. This is the dismissal or destruction of indigenous knowledge systems and protocols. Ex Excuse me. Like when we talk about land acknowledgement and treaty seven, even when I talk to indigenous people who who haven't lived in First Nations Anywhere Metis communities who have status cards, I say to them, Know the knowledge systems, know the protocols. And I'm grateful they ask me so I can give them protocols of what to do when they come into Sutina or when they come into Treaty Seven. All these things you have to do the homework. And if you're in white privil privilege and you don't think you have to do it, excuse me. Look at is look at it as if you're an immigrant and you have to come into a sovereign country and you have to know the protocols and the sovereignty of that in of that nation. We're a nation within a nation. Understand that the world is not your oyster. The world has thousands, eight billion people. In the video, by reducing indigenous culture protocols bracket, the protection of sacred items unbracket to mere nuance of every culture and comparing them to bilingual. Marina Crane (45:18.336) logistics, French versus English. She's actually stripping the critique of its historical and political significance. Like really? The historical like when you say English and French, where the hell are the indigenous languages, you little shit? Where the hell don't you acknowledge it? You stole those languages from us and you have the audacity To not even acknowledge the historical or political significance, as if you poo-pooted that we're invisible? When we have our children, our grandchildren, the very essence of indigenous, d having the courage at some at age 15 to learn their language. You have the Maoris and New Zealand, the resurgence of indigenous languages, and you have don't even understand. The sacredness of the of these items, the sacredness of what what it is? You know, excuse me. That's what I call frailty, fragility. Five, tone policing. This is a rhetoric rhetorical strategy that critiques the manner to protest rather than the substance of the grievance effectively silencing the speaker. In the video, and this again is the same white woman of privilege, in the video she focuses intensely on the fact that she felt blindsided. excuse me, poor thing, and that Ashley's delivery was insulting. Hey, when I do my podcasting and you find it insulting, I don't really give a damn. How many white women that I've known as friends throughout my whole academic life, or even non-Indigenous people. Who have written on my coattails for academic purposes. Like, hello, and that you blindsided me, and that you what grifted me? And like, hello, that I'm insulting you? Excuse me. You know, Ashley Collingbull has knowledge, lived knowledge, experience. Give me a break. And condescending. Marina Crane (47:38.078) She uses these emotional reactions to discredit the actual content of Ash Ashley's message. See, everything, even like for me, going in through high school and or even university and meeting women who never even declared they were indigenous, and then afterwards what they start their own business because they say their great-grandmother had indigenous blood, or that they're still waiting for their Metis card to be processed. Excuse me. Now that you can make money and you're not in the academic world of high school or university, go ahead. Go ahead. Actually discredit anybody who's actually lived in First Nations Inuit or Metis communities who gives a shit. You know, who fought to get their education, who fought for everything. Bless Ashley Collingbull's heart, the respect she has for her parents and her grandparents and her culture. It it boggles my mind. Three, falsely equival equivalency that what about what about defense? Qu again, this is the quote. This involves creating a distraction by comparing a serious systemic issue example indigenous appropriation to a trivial or unrelated matter, bilingualism. In the video, why isn't the show done in French and English? We're the bilingual country. She uses this as a minim to minimize the indigenous grievance, suggesting that if indigenous people get to speak up, everyone with a nuance should, which is a classic tactic to devalue indigenous sovereignty. Like why the hell would she even bring that up? Hello, talk about spoilt spoilt spoilt bread. Or like spoiled recipe, like whatever the hell you were cooking up in this mince this Miss Universe pageant, you're the you're the one who put all the ingredients together to come up with this bullshit. Like that's that stinks. You're you're a bad cook there, Miss Miss whatever what was her name again? This woman who claims she's got indigenous blood in her. This Lorraine Gilmore Peters. Lorraine, come and talk to me, okay? Marina Crane (50:02.634) Really? Could you really stand up and talk to me? I don't think so. A lot of people just sort of ghost me. or you know, find me very offensive. And that's okay. Number five, toning policing. This is a rhetoric strategy that critiques the manner of the protest rather than the substance of the grievance, effectively silencing the speaker. In the video She focused in intensely on the fact that she felt blindsided that Ashley's delivery was insulting and condescending. She uses these emotional reactions to discredit the actual content of Ashley's message. And and so, like even when I talk about healthy human sexuality, matriarchy versus patriarchy, religiosity versus spiritual spirituality and ways of living, I've had women who claim to be indigenous mansplay me. I've had women, like I said, w all of a sudden it's in it it's the flavor of the month to say you're indigenous, who who claims like I'm condescending, that I'm insulting them because they choose to be, you know, religious. I mean, I went to Lord Beaverbrook High School. I'm talking about religiosity here. And the the lady that I went to high school with never once claimed she was indigenous, but now it's okay for her her children and her grandchildren to be fruitful and multiplying under religiosity, and how dare I offend and condescend. When I'm only explaining the reasoning behind why I have to question all things that are rich that has to do with ritual abuse, including religiosity. Six false equivalent equivalency or what happened what happened defense. This involves creating a distraction by comparing a serious systemic issue, indigenous appropriation, to a trivial or unrelated well that that was already done. Seven, good defense. Def the good intention defense. This framework prioritizes the feeling of persons acting over the actual impact of their actions. In the video, I was so happy to support her to make her feel pretty. She centers her own internal Marina Crane (52:19.416) Feelings of support and happiness to justify wearing jewelry, completely ignoring the power of imbalance and the conformification inherent in using those items for her own vanity. I'm just grateful for this relentless indigenous woman's social media, how she just pointed it out straightforward. 'Cause like I don't have that skill set, so I'm very flamboyant and open and like like again, when pr people critique me, like say, well you do it with such you know well for whatever reason if people want to praise the way I speak, fine. I'm just being assertive. I or I should say, isn't that what assertiveness is? eight. Institutional defenses and corporate narcissism. This is when the organization prioritizes its brand and tightly curates shows over acknowledging systemic wrongdoings. In the video she repeatedly refers to the script the teleprompter and the need to protect the image of the organization. She views the protest as a logistic problem that disrupted and curated perfection of current yeah disrupted the corate the curated perfective perfection of the event rather than the necessar n that a necessary interruption for justice. Like excuse me, like she she like I said, she's the cook. She had all the ingredients for the recipe. Now she's she's saying that her what she cooked was really good. Like how dare like it's like going to a restaurant and ordering ordering like something and you didn't get you didn't get what you ordered. Like and then you're making excuses that, we didn't put we didn't add salt, enough seasoning. Weaponizing ignorance. This is this is a choice to remain uneducated about marginalized groups to avoid the responsibility of an ally or respecting boundaries. In the video she explicitly admits she didn't know the protocols and argues they Marina Crane (54:28.578) shouldn't be expected to by stating, do I think we needed to apologize? No. I don't think she's asserting that she has the right to remain ignorant and that holding her to standard of education is a form of bullying. What a croc. See, we're we're talking about a systemic issue here. I mean, all people have a tendency to make mistakes, but but you know, exc excuse me. Like when when I'm talking to my cousins and and they're they're they have mental health issues of bullying or mansplain or lateral violence or misogyny, any anything that that has to do with an imbalance of of some you know, somebody being better than the other. Like what the hell? you know, I I don't know, you know, for throughout my life If I I don't know if I've ever apologized to people or or or like like I think people think like I I have to say, I apologize for this. No, I think a lot of times apologies are for me have been a conversation, like a conversation of actually, you know, getting talking about it, talking about like my beliefs versus your beliefs. deconstructing it, reconstructing it, having a lap, all those things. It's conflict resolution, having skills. What the hell's the matter with this woman? Again, does she even deserve to her name to be said? Lorraine Gilmore Peters, Executive Director. Poo poo on you. Like, excuse me, poor baby. You know, yes, it's hard to be a woman. It's really hard. Marina Crane (56:24.226) I mean really am I being a sarcastic bitch. So what would have been a respectful response? It all comes down to how well someone can hold radiational accountability basically. Here are nine ways to be a s antithesis of Lorraine. I mean colonial gaslighting. To read the entire article of Nuance call calls to action and reflection. You know, it's it's necess like it's just it's you gotta go to this website. Again, her name is Relentless Indigenous Woman. You'll re s shows she's you know, the whole n the whole notion of cultural appropriation versus cultural appreciation. She does she does web web art webinars or what they call web webinar. And and so, you know, take a take it Take it with a grain, you know, like take it, embrace it. Take what you need and then release it. You know, the hu you know, Indigenous you know, Miss Collingbull and Emma Morris, Miss World Canada 2022 for standing up and speaking on these issues. Ex you know, like they're examples of what it means to lead with love res despite receiving cruel and arrogant pushbacks. Like understand that. I mean my whole life I've had I've had that. I've had, you know, like pushbacks, like people people arrogance and you know, everything, verbal, physical, and you know like I I'll r I'll I'll I'll I'll reflect before I close. About thirty years ago, my my childhood friend who married into the Nakotas, the the the week that my niece was born. was the same week her her daughter was killed in a automobile accident. And it it made it made news. And the T V reporters re interviewed the father, my childhood friend's husband. And he made a comment about forgiveness, forgiving the person who had killed his daughter. And the comment was like, How can you how can you forgive? And and Marina Crane (58:45.312) when I think the reality when we talk about holistic holistic and col collective approaches to living and when I talk about historical like c what do they call it collect like restorative and transformative justice and that and that there are our jails and our even even people pretending to be indigenous in the jails so they can get like like extra like going to sweats and little you know, spiritual things bec because they want to, but there's no proof they're indigenous. So so it adds up like there's a whole bunch of indigenous people in the prisons. But but there are injustices that happen. And and again too, like even last week when that young twenty four year old woman was killed and no, you know, like nobody even mentioned her name for the first couple of days. Marina Crane (59:45.474) When when they come home when they come home from prison, they come home. Some go to urban areas and they end up, you know, in horrible situations and back in prison. But for those ones who have a land base, who ha who have an indigenous First Nations community, Inuit community, Metis community, restorative and tran transformative justice is is a process of forgiveness. So that's why I'm saying, you know, the when people when people like when Ashley and this this Emma Morrison are standing up speaking out on these issues, it means they lead with love instead of cruelty. Because we have to we have to embrace those people we love who did who who who did a crime. And and then we've got to release them on their own recognizance, hoping that they they never re re offend. Marina Crane (01:00:53.634) You know, my my my friend my childhood friend will never get her daughter back. But but it but it's knowing it's knowing that you know it it she's never gonna be here again and in in honor of her memory to forgive. These things that you know, you have to practice these things. And and for this woman who y I I don't wanna repeat her name again, but to be totally Totally ignorant of of the meaning of what it means to be indigenous, to to totally not understand what respect and and and showing respect for the people you love and those who taught you what what forgiveness is all about. With all the horrors of human trafficking, all the horrors of of children being born because of sexual assault. all the need to raise our children and and to try and and and say to them, you know, life is worth living. Don't give up. Yet yet in this day and age you have a young scholar, the youngest professor. He he you know, he learned to to read and write as a as a as a teenager. We have so many indigenous youth like that who have accomplished so much And then all of a sudden you have white privilege criticizing them that they're plagiarizing. Throughout my life I've had people accuse me of so many things, of my divine gift not being mine. I've had the honor and the privilege to go out and seek invisible helping hands and to embrace and release them. And some people don't have that and they end up killing themselves. Marina Crane (01:02:49.13) It's systemic racism. People want to poop it and say, it's alcohol and drugs. But when you have a group of people who want to look at you as if you're dumb, stupid, ignorant, and savage-like and have a low propensity for just understanding forgiveness and love. That's why I talk about healthy human sexuality. My parents loved each other, and so did my grandparents. And as much as we can and try to understand, love isn't isn't forever. We outgrow it. We outgrow each other. And when we do, we have to have the courage to embrace it and let it go. And if love is worth it, then hold on to it for as as long as you can. before you release it. That's the nature of life. You try to bastardize it or say anything else, that's your choice. That's your life. But anyway, I wanted to put something out there. I'm I'm like I said, this is my third attempt and hopefully hopefully, you know, you as listeners have received something from it. And like I said, it for me it was very difficult, a very provocative thing to talk about. But but an advocacy and and being an activist isn't easy. And and no matter what you try to contribute, even if it's even if it's criticized, just do it. You have the right to tell your story.